Unintended Consequences of Citizens United
- Thread starter Mott the Hoople
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You know why you are full of shit?
Most everyone counts the company paid portion of their health plan as compensation. Most of the jobs my ex wife had paid about like this; taxes 1/3 health insurance 1/3 and take home pay1/3. (You might think she was a teenager working at Wallmart for that to be the case, but she actually had a master's degree in Social Work and social workers are undervalued in today's society)
So Simplefreak, How many people want to relinquish up to 1/3 of their pay for the freedom of buying their own plan which covers contraceptives?
As usual your jibberish, though oft repeated is meaningless.
As to your last and least credible of all comment; Really? Good paying jobs are in surplus are they, you disingenuous freak?
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Darla
Lol exactly
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Darla
Superfreak skewered here so badly I feel that I should look away
And if you don't agree with the company's compensation plan for the labor you provide, don't accept the job....its really as simple as that....
If you're in a position to 'negotiate' your salary compensation...then negotiate for exactly what your demands are, or shove off to greener pastures...
Or.....take wtf you can get and like it....
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Sweet Jane
I see...so since my insurance is part of my compensation the Corporation can pay or not pay me that compensation based on their religious beliefs?
Based on anything they want....if they offer a non-negotiable package of compensation, its up to you to take it or leave it....you're the one with the choice.
you seem to be neglecting that the ammendment reads "CONGRESS shall pass no law...". You make moot points talking about entities other than the body being restricted.
Bravo, true to form picks the least credible right wing argument and runs with it.
Look moron; There is a scarcity of good paying jobs....there are many with no jobs at all who desperately want to work. This fact makes your argument not just meaningless, stupid and irrelevant, but also a ginormous insult to Americans, the most productive workers in the world.
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Social workers aren't undervalued. They are properly valued which is why they make what they make. Want to make more money? Do something more valuable. It is really simple
Its a good thing BO is focus3d like a laser on jobs and all that stuff was Bush's fault... oh wait Bush was years and years ago and there are still no jobs despite the no rest (not counting golf and vacations) and laser focus.
Sf, Nova and ila are all making an irrelevant argument. Congress can force or compel employers to provide benefits to employees. It's settled law, not a part of the case and arguing against it is futile. The courts have ruled that the interstate commerce clause and the 16th amendment empower Congress to do just about anything it likes in regulating commerce. Thanks to Republican appointees like Roberts and Justice the Hutt this power has become more entrenched and is stronger than ever with the ACA ruling and Raich.
The free market is pretty much dead and conservatives have been digging the grave. The contest now over economic issues is really just a squabble over which special interest should be favored. There is no moral principle there and with that context the courts should and are going to defer to Congress.
This case is about whether the law infringes on the exercise of religion. Buying insurance and employing someone to sell art and craft supplies is not a religious act and I think it is pretty absurd to pretend it is.
The free market is pretty much dead and conservatives have been digging the grave. The contest now over economic issues is really just a squabble over which special interest should be favored. There is no moral principle there and with that context the courts should and are going to defer to Congress.
This case is about whether the law infringes on the exercise of religion. Buying insurance and employing someone to sell art and craft supplies is not a religious act and I think it is pretty absurd to pretend it is.
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The Almighty
That is what I thought... typical coward... spouting off crap and then refusing to back it up... AGAIN.
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The Almighty
And EVERYONE has a right to refuse compensation. No one is FORCING them to work there. If they choose to work there, they are not FORCED to use the company health plan. If they choose to use a company health plan that does not cover contraceptives, no one if FORCING them to not buy contraceptives. They can still CHOOSE to do so on their own. Or they can choose a supplemental insurance plan that covers the things they want that are not covered under the company plan.
Where did I say any such thing Dune? I said they are free to look for other work if the contraceptive coverage is that big of a deal to them. That doesn't mean it is a good idea to do so.
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The Almighty
When single payer creates a cookie cutter 'coverage' list... what happens when an item someone wants covered... ISN'T?
It does nothing to change the situation. Unless you go to the 'everything is covered for everyone and we will stick future generations with the bill' plan.
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The Almighty
LMAO... which is pure nonsense.
He makes up a couple straw men and beats them up. The portions of my comments that he actually addresses he loses badly.
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The Almighty
No. YOU can choose to accept that portion of your compensation or not. If you choose to accept what they offer, then you can CHOOSE to get a supplemental plan or to pay out of pocket for the condoms. Running around screaming because they don't want to pay for your condoms is pretty fucking ridiculous.