Indicator for November?

maineman said:
In Clinton's time, the house felt that Clinton should be impeached and they did so... because they thought it was the right thing to do. The senate, on the other hand, found him not to have committed the high crimes and misdemeanors with which the house charged him.... because they thought THAT was the right thing to do. If Boehner and his buddies truly believed that Obama should be impeached, it would seem to me to be truly cowardly of them to NOT do so simply because they were not assured of a conviction in the senate. But then, there is a reason why the house of representatives has the lowest approval rating ever in the history of that body.
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Your saying the House has the lowest approval rating ever in the history of that body because they won't impeach Obama ?

You're insane....

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) holds the lowest net approval rating among House and Senate leadership.

Reid's (D-NV) approval rating is 33 percent.

John Boehner (R-Ohio), approval rating 37 percent.

Congress....11.6%
 
NOVA said:
Your[sic] saying the House has the lowest approval rating ever in the history of that body because they won't impeach Obama ?

You're insane....
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You really cannot understand the English language beyond the trade manual level, can you? NOTHING in what I wrote suggests causation between the low approval rating of the house of representatives and their failure to impeach the president.

Really. Trying to have a conversation with you is like trying to talk about some college level stuff with a retarded kid who hasn't gotten his GED yet.... you are just too fucking stupid for words.
 
Jarod said:
There is an intelligent answer.

But here is the thing, Sink, by getting as close as she has to winning, and possibly winning... she will have produced a formula for beating the current Republican formula for winning this November.

The Republicans have thrown their arsenal at her and she has remained at a dead heat with the Republican. Democrats who want to win need to follow her formula and they will likely have at least an even chance...

Sink is not a great candidate, she lost to the awful candidate and awful governor Scott.
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I'll admit I wasn't even aware of this race and haven't followed it until today. But look at the spin you give it here. Trying to argue that if it's close it will show you can't run against Obamacare? And that Sink was some type of underdog? Now look at how others viewed it:


Republican David Jolly wasn't expected to win Tuesday's special election. But he capitalized on an increasingly favorable political environment for the GOP


The results from tonight's Florida special election are serving as a wake-up call to nervous Democrats concerned the president's health care law is shaping up to be a major burden for their party in 2014. Despite recruiting the party's favored candidate, outspending Republicans and utilizing turnout tools to help motivate reliable voters, Democrat Alex Sink still lost to Republican lobbyist David Jolly – and it wasn't particularly close.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/republican-wave-in-2014-looking-more-likely-20140311



And look at this article from Jan 9th talking about the race.

""But fundamentals are only a small part of the Democratic advantage in the district this year. Campaign-related factors should strongly benefit the Democrats, as well.""


http://blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/the-race-democrats-cant-afford-to-lose/
 
Truth Detector said:
Republican wins; what does this portend for the "situation" Republicans are facing this November Counselor?

:thisisgettinggood:
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My guess is that Jarod will say that this election "means nothing" and was won on "local issues" and there was "low turnout" and it was an "off year election" and that this is PROOF that the GOP should not run against Obamacare even though Jarod admits Obamacare is bad legislation.

He'll even Obama thinks it is bad legislation because he keeps delaying it
 
cawacko said:
I'll admit I wasn't even aware of this race and haven't followed it until today. But look at the spin you give it here. Trying to argue that if it's close it will show you can't run against Obamacare? And that Sink was some type of underdog? Now look at how others viewed it:


Republican David Jolly wasn't expected to win Tuesday's special election. But he capitalized on an increasingly favorable political environment for the GOP


The results from tonight's Florida special election are serving as a wake-up call to nervous Democrats concerned the president's health care law is shaping up to be a major burden for their party in 2014. Despite recruiting the party's favored candidate, outspending Republicans and utilizing turnout tools to help motivate reliable voters, Democrat Alex Sink still lost to Republican lobbyist David Jolly – and it wasn't particularly close.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/republican-wave-in-2014-looking-more-likely-20140311



And look at this article from Jan 9th talking about the race.

""But fundamentals are only a small part of the Democratic advantage in the district this year. Campaign-related factors should strongly benefit the Democrats, as well.""


http://blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/the-race-democrats-cant-afford-to-lose/
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Sink was an underdog to a degree, the county is a republican leaning county to start with and there were issues with sink not being a county resident. She also had the stigma of running a failed Gov Race.

Im not making any excuses for her, just stating some facts. Is this a huge indicator for nov. I just dont know. I do believe the democrats are the underdog for nov
 
Yoda said:
Sink was an underdog to a degree, the county is a republican leaning county to start with and there were issues with sink not being a county resident. She also had the stigma of running a failed Gov Race.

Im not making any excuses for her, just stating some facts. Is this a huge indicator for nov. I just dont know. I do believe the democrats are the underdog for nov
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You start off making excuses then say you aren't making excuses

Didn't the dems know that about her before they picked her?

Stop spinning
 
I don't know what it means, the fact that it was close means that the Democrats are not in as bad a place as many would say, but the Republican win, despite the slight advantage Sink had in the polls means that the Republicans have the clear edge in enthusiasm and turnout.
 
Teflon Don said:
My guess is that Jarod will say that this election "means nothing" and was won on "local issues" and there was "low turnout" and it was an "off year election" and that this is PROOF that the GOP should not run against Obamacare even though Jarod admits Obamacare is bad legislation.

He'll even Obama thinks it is bad legislation because he keeps delaying it
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You don't know me very well.
 
Teflon Don said:
My guess is that Jarod will say that this election "means nothing" and was won on "local issues" and there was "low turnout" and it was an "off year election" and that this is PROOF that the GOP should not run against Obamacare even though Jarod admits Obamacare is bad legislation.

He'll even Obama thinks it is bad legislation because he keeps delaying it
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LMAO and BINGO!! What do you think the Counselors and medias talking points would be had Jolly lost? LOL
 
Yoda said:
Sink was an underdog to a degree, the county is a republican leaning county to start with and there were issues with sink not being a county resident. She also had the stigma of running a failed Gov Race.

Im not making any excuses for her, just stating some facts. Is this a huge indicator for nov. I just dont know. I do believe the democrats are the underdog for nov
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Jolly was the underdog; Sink had name recognition. Why can't you get the basic facts right?

Democrats outspent Republicans three to one in a district they were SURE they could win given Obama's popularity in the Presidential elections.

Democrats lost; I am still trying to figure out what this "situation with Republicans" the Counselor was talking about.
 
Jarod said:
I don't know what it means, the fact that it was close means that the Democrats are not in as bad a place as many would say, but the Republican win, despite the slight advantage Sink had in the polls means that the Republicans have the clear edge in enthusiasm and turnout.
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:facepalm:
 
Originally Posted by Celticguy

I thought the lp guy got a pretty big chunk. Was that anticipated ?
Jarod said:
IDK, Randall Paul got involved and urged Republicans not to support the Libertarian candidate.
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So that would explain why they got a BIG chunk of votes.
:facepalm:
 
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:rofl2:

That pretty much sums it up....
 
maineman said:
In Clinton's time, the house felt that Clinton should be impeached and they did so... because they thought it was the right thing to do. The senate, on the other hand, found him not to have committed the high crimes and misdemeanors with which the house charged him.... because they thought THAT was the right thing to do. If Boehner and his buddies truly believed that Obama should be impeached, it would seem to me to be truly cowardly of them to NOT do so simply because they were not assured of a conviction in the senate. But then, there is a reason why the house of representatives has the lowest approval rating ever in the history of that body.
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The Senate obviously didn't do the right thing, though, because Democrats had control of it.
 
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