Dems to lose Senate.
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Looking back we can see it was a lot of sexism against her. Many of us saw it for what it was back then, but few would admit to the positions they took against her in todays environment. We really have come a long way.
There are many issues today, that we will look back at in 20 years and see how backwards we were. I hope I was the one ahead of his time, like I was regarding the sexism issue.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Here's a present for you, Truth Destroyer. Your usual is too boring for words.
http://www.insultgenerator.org/
Yet you voted for a man who uses the Constitution for toilet paper and thinks he can bypass Congressional legislation. Ironic isn't it?
This coming from the hypocritical dunce who called me a meathead and idiot; you really are THAT stupid aren't you?
Another lie Counselor? Can you provide a source for this lie?
Once again we see the phony Counselor prone to uttering outright lies in defense of his buffoonery. Read, become better informed and stop your lying:
Bush: The Constitution a ‘Goddamned Piece of Paper’?
Posted on December 12, 2007 | Updated on Feb. 21, 2011
Q: Did President Bush call the Constitution a "goddamned piece of paper"?
A: Extremely unlikely. The Web site that reported those words has a history of quoting phony sources and retracting bogus stories.
FULL QUESTION
Is it true that President Bush called the Constitution a "goddamned piece of paper?" He has never denied it, and it appears that there were several witnesses.
FULL ANSWER
The report that Bush "screamed" those words at Republican congressional leaders in November 2005 is unsubstantiated, to put it charitably.
We judge that the odds that the report is accurate hover near zero. It comes from Capitol Hill Blue, a Web site that has a history of relying on phony sources, retracting stories and apologizing to its readers.
Update, Feb. 21, 2011: The author of the Capitol Hill Blue story has now withdrawn it. Doug Thompson messaged us to say:
Doug Thompson: This is to let you know that the piece on Bush and the Constitution has been changed and reads:
"This article was based on sources that we thought, at the time, were reliable. We have since discovered reasons to doubt their veracity. For that reason, this article has been removed from our database."
I no longer stand behind that article or its conclusions and have said so in answers to several recent queries. In addition, I have asked that it be removed from a documentary film.
Thompson elaborated on what led him to retract his story in an item posted on his website Jan. 1, 2011. He also noted that an earlier article, in which he had referred to Bush as a "madman," has been removed from the site entirely.
The Quote
The report was posted on Dec. 5, 2005. According to author, Doug Thompson, unnamed Republican leaders complained to Bush during a White House meeting about "onerous" portions of the USA Patriot Act, prompting the following:
Capitol Hill Blue: “I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”
“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
The Evidence
There’s no record of Bush ever using these words in public and no other news organization has reported him using them privately. Thompson based his report on three sources whom he didn’t name. He gave the date of the quote as "last month," which would put it sometime in November 2005.
Thompson told us he once removed the story from his Web site when others raised doubts and no other news organization came up with a similar story. But he said he later reinstated it and currently believes it to be true. "I wrote the story and I stand by it," Thompson said in a telephone interview.
Thompson told us he based the story on e-mail messages from three persons he knows, all of whom claim to have been present at a White House meeting and to have heard Bush make the statement. He said he finds their account credible: "Sometimes I just have to go with my gut, and my gut tells me he did say this."
http://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/bush-the-constitution-a-goddamned-piece-of-paper/
So please Counselor; stop the lies and dishonest strawmen.
Bush: The Constitution a ‘Goddamned Piece of Paper’?
Posted on December 12, 2007 | Updated on Feb. 21, 2011
Q: Did President Bush call the Constitution a "goddamned piece of paper"?
A: Extremely unlikely. The Web site that reported those words has a history of quoting phony sources and retracting bogus stories.
FULL QUESTION
Is it true that President Bush called the Constitution a "goddamned piece of paper?" He has never denied it, and it appears that there were several witnesses.
FULL ANSWER
The report that Bush "screamed" those words at Republican congressional leaders in November 2005 is unsubstantiated, to put it charitably.
We judge that the odds that the report is accurate hover near zero. It comes from Capitol Hill Blue, a Web site that has a history of relying on phony sources, retracting stories and apologizing to its readers.
Update, Feb. 21, 2011: The author of the Capitol Hill Blue story has now withdrawn it. Doug Thompson messaged us to say:
Doug Thompson: This is to let you know that the piece on Bush and the Constitution has been changed and reads:
"This article was based on sources that we thought, at the time, were reliable. We have since discovered reasons to doubt their veracity. For that reason, this article has been removed from our database."
I no longer stand behind that article or its conclusions and have said so in answers to several recent queries. In addition, I have asked that it be removed from a documentary film.
Thompson elaborated on what led him to retract his story in an item posted on his website Jan. 1, 2011. He also noted that an earlier article, in which he had referred to Bush as a "madman," has been removed from the site entirely.
The Quote
The report was posted on Dec. 5, 2005. According to author, Doug Thompson, unnamed Republican leaders complained to Bush during a White House meeting about "onerous" portions of the USA Patriot Act, prompting the following:
Capitol Hill Blue: “I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”
“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
The Evidence
There’s no record of Bush ever using these words in public and no other news organization has reported him using them privately. Thompson based his report on three sources whom he didn’t name. He gave the date of the quote as "last month," which would put it sometime in November 2005.
Thompson told us he once removed the story from his Web site when others raised doubts and no other news organization came up with a similar story. But he said he later reinstated it and currently believes it to be true. "I wrote the story and I stand by it," Thompson said in a telephone interview.
Thompson told us he based the story on e-mail messages from three persons he knows, all of whom claim to have been present at a White House meeting and to have heard Bush make the statement. He said he finds their account credible: "Sometimes I just have to go with my gut, and my gut tells me he did say this."
http://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/bush-the-constitution-a-goddamned-piece-of-paper/
So please Counselor; stop the lies and dishonest strawmen.
You think? Let's ask the Counselor (assuming he gives honest answers); Hey Jarod, is your wife a paralegal???
christiefan915
Catalyst
For once exert yourself to be honest. You have always started the name-calling on this site, with me and everyone else.
christiefan915
Catalyst
It's his personal info and nobody's business. I used it as an example of why a wife would help her lawyer husband with briefs, court appearances etc.
Is there any reason why Hillary (a lawyer) shouldn't have helped her husband (also a lawyer) with his job?
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
OR
Maybe there was no "disciplinary action" taken; because after further review there was no need for it, ergo: there never was any documentation lost in the first place.
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Prove that any documentation, regarding this supposed disciplinary action taken against Bush, was lost.
PROVE IT OR RETRACT IT.
PROVE IT OR ADMIT THAT YOU'RE A LIAR.
I'll wait.
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
But then; you also believe that women will vote for Hillary, because she has a vagina and no other reason.
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
What information do you have that would lead you to believe he hasn't studied the Constitution, Government, and History?
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Have you anything that proves Bush said that, besides Doug Thompson saying that others said that it was said?
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Boris The Animal
It's Just Boris!
No she won't. She's just as much, if not more than a radical leftist cunt, pure and simple.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
You should be called Super Derp. The FACT that more State Department Consolate workers died under Bush than Obama wasn't meant as evidence that people should vote for Hilliary but was meant as evidence that GOP blowing hot air about Benghazi is partizan hackery....but if you weren't a Derp you wouldn't have known that, wouldn't you?
Had any pudding lately?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
If your prediction comes true and the presumptive GOP nominee has to run to the far right to win the GOP nomination than I would agree with you. That may not happen though.
christiefan915
Catalyst
I think you're clueless about how little I care about obscure repubs and what they have to say. And your link refers to what happened over a year ago.