Hillary as Sec of State

Warrior135 said:
Gaddaffi wasn't THAT bad a guy .. a screwloose yes .. and he had previously supported terrorists himself .. long in the past .. but he had largly changed his bad boy ways after seing his buddy Saddam Hussain pummeled .. remember it was george bush and his connection to 'yellow cake' in libya ..

Well Gaddaffi straightened up .. He had shut down all the budding nuclear sites and allowed inspectors in and surrendered all his nuclear weapons material stockpiles ..

His sons were living largely in England and Europe and were Westernising .. they had abundant wealth in budget surplusses in their economy ..

All this said .. Gaddaffi did assist in bombing the Pan Am flight over Lockerbe some 30 years ago .. but .. he was currently playing by the rules and had 'turned over a new leaf'

This here was the next epicenter of the 'arab spring' where the western funded and inspired jihaadist began uprising against their dictator ..

When it was clear that Gaddaffi did in fact have large support and was driving the opposition into the sea .. the US proposed a 'no fly zone' be created in the UN security council ..

It's mandate was very limited and defined in only allowing western jets to shoot down or otherwise keep grounded the libyan air force to somewhat even the level of the battlefield .. And allow for humanitarian assistance .

Well as soon as they arrived the american french and british jets broke the boundries of the mandate limitations ..

so the big bad air planes showed up to ''stop humanitarian suffering and attacks on civilians" when infact .. beyond just shutting down the libyan air force .. they began wholesale bombardment of ground forces .. infrastructure .. weapons systems .. and everything and anything else the wanted to destroy on a whim ..

Gaddaffi and his loyalists were pounded day and night in an undeclared war .. but there was nothing he could do .. eventually he was dwindled down to a convoy escaping his home town Sirte with around 100 vehicles ..

The car in front of his was hit directly with a missle his car was disabled and he was seperated from the group .. injured he and one or two of the surviving men with him crawled into a concrete road pipe ...

they were surrounded and captured by Jihadis .. he was seen on a phone camera being beaten and bloodied .. they shot him several times and cut his face .. shoved some sword up his ass .. and generally tortured him until he bled out ..

hillary clinton remarked on this illegal and unauthorized war 'we came . we saw . he died . shrill laughter of a mad woman '

Moamar Gaddafi's Aire and Son Saif al Gaddaffi was captured and taken to a makeshift Ziltan militia prision where he is still held and routinely tortured .. several of his fingers have been cut off ..

IsIs and radical islamists are now controling most of the country .. the ''secular freedom fighters'' are pretty much been co-opted or killed by now and the country is now in dissaray and destroyed ..

in this case the administration was successful . ..
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long read..I don't agree wth all of this exactly,but you get the main idea.
Yep. they also bombed civilians in Misrata
 
anatta said:
long read..I don't agree wth all of this exactly,but you get the main idea.
Yep. they also bombed civilians in Misrata
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thanks !

yep .. even i disagree with myself on occasion .. that's the mark of a free thinker .. thank you for your comment on my analysis ..
 
Billy Batts said:
1) No. I did not.

2) Tell me why it is Clinton's fault? Muammar Gaddafi was overthrown by his own people.

3) Yes but it was still a populous uprising.

4) I never blamed Bush. See answer 1 you partisan hack.

Are you voting for Trump because you believe he has a better foreign policy platform than Clinton?
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I'm just stating what the facts are. Gaddafi was not overthrown by his own people. He was overthrown by NATO, the US, and our Al Oueda allies.

Here is Gaddafi's people standing against NATO and the US, and standing for Gaddafi in the largest demonstration in history.

Obama's lie is exposed 15 seconds into the video


This is what we do.
 
anatta said:
Hillary as Sec of State
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Not a PROB, bubeleh!!!!


http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm#Foreign_Policy



 
anatta said:
hopeless. you are fixated on Bengazi.."cherry picked spam" it's her own State Dept memo?

do you need more? how about the NYTimes? educate yourself.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html?_r=1
Hillary Clinton,
‘Smart Power’
and a
Dictator’s Fall

The president was wary. The
secretary of state was persuasive.
But the ouster of Col. Muammar
el-Qaddafi left Libya a failed
state and a terrorist haven.
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PostmodernProphet said:
we aren't talking about loans, dumbfuck......we're talking about the bribes she accepted......you're the only one here who thinks loans are involved.....
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Only you would think bribes should be paid back.
 
okay .. i'll check it out .. i follow conflicts real time also ..

and the spin and brainwashing that occurs by state actors is simply amazing ..
 
Warrior135 said:
okay .. i'll check it out .. i follow conflicts real time also ..

and the spin and brainwashing that occurs by state actors is simply amazing ..
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it's all they got.
Clinton is still crowing about "smart power" for Libya..and she is still making noises about "spreading democracy"

The Dems have a neocon nominee.
 
blackascoal said:
I'm just stating what the facts are. Gaddafi was not overthrown by his own people. He was overthrown by NATO, the US, and our Al Oueda allies.

Here is Gaddafi's people standing against NATO and the US, and standing for Gaddafi in the largest demonstration in history.

Obama's lie is exposed 15 seconds into the video

This is what we do.
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So you are telling me the U.S, and Nato troops overthrew Gaddafi? No.
 
lol .. i know .. they love to say one thing and do the exact opposite ..

"smart power" it's so big and dumb it's hard to begin unpacking .. like hitler ..

they believe if you create a BIG lie and Repeat it again and again ..

You Will Confuse enough of the People .. Unfortunately .. it Seems that this STILL Works ..

Yes .. hIlliary is definitely a NEOCON .. she can't wait to spark off war .. war is good for Gov Contract Business ..

her Lobyist Crony friends will Benefit Enormously ..


"spreading democracy" doesn't work in a community that believes in the preeminence of Sharia Law ..
 
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