The left should chill

Thing1 said:
I know you're trolling w/ that last part (you're really been trolling a lot lately - you must be bored), but it's not a white knight thing. Like I said, that wasn't typical "locker room" talk. I thought it was creepy & embarrassing at best.
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nope, not trolling. also if you don't think in a campaign that has a billion dollars on the line and peoples life ambitions wont result in a little bribery, you are still too glass half full about things.
 
anatta said:
first is re-negotitation, not repeal..Another way is to make it painful for US corps to outsource manufacturing/assembly jobs.Another is tax reform ( simplification).It's a combination of "America first". can it get done? I don't know,but it has to be tried.
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Maybe it will increase people's job security, it will not lead to increased growth.
 
blackascoal said:
Had Clinton won, Trump supporters were threatening to march on the White House with guns.

No one has to accept Trump.
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I've heard the same calls from the frantic left. Wanting to incite and start a civil war.

You do have to accept Trump. Whether you want to or not.
 
Irish said:
I've heard the same calls from the frantic left. Wanting to incite and start a civil war.

You do have to accept Trump. Whether you want to or not.
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No I don't. He'll be the president .. that's it.

He should be treated exactly as the right treated Obama .. and his slut wife should be treated exactly as Michelle Obama was treated by the right.
 
blackascoal said:
Democrats should exhibit no respect foir Trump or his minions .. treat Trump like the right treated Obama.
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The democrats may start to do that until Trump throws them a bone lol. Obama was an ideologue, Trumps not. More importantly, he wants to get things done---unless I'm wrong, he'll make deals to do it.

Obama was my way or the highway.
 
Mr. Meeseeks said:
what trump said on the tape is perfectly fine. He said women LET him grab them by the pussy. If they let him, then they are consenting. If you actually look at trumps poll numbers after those comments, he didn't fall much with women, just with men. I.e. white knights that dont understand that women love being grabbed by the pussy by rich successful men. It's a fact.
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This supposed "awful" tape of Trump having a private conversation about women was the most overblown event in the election.

Who cares what someone says in a private conversation? We've all said weird and sick shit in private about the other sex. Fucking moron liberals acting so surprised that's how men talk. GIVE ME A BREAK!
 
blackascoal said:
No I don't. He'll be the president .. that's it.

He should be treated exactly as the right treated Obama .. and his slut wife should be treated exactly as Michelle Obama was treated by the right.
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Oh is that a fact. I don't remember anyone calling Michelle a slut. You are far worst than who you claim your enemies are. Hope you can sleep at night.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
The democrats may start to do that until Trump throws them a bone lol. Obama was an ideologue, Trumps not. More importantly, he wants to get things done---unless I'm wrong, he'll make deals to do it.

Obama was my way or the highway.
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This^. Even when Obama's policies fell flat on their face, he continued to push them. Making him a true Ideologue. Like you said Trump isn't. Trump is willing to do whatever it takes to get stuff done. Even if it pisses off his own party, and that can be good.

I will probably not like some of his proposals and ideas, but I will be happy that our govt is actually accomplishing something.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
The democrats may start to do that until Trump throws them a bone lol. Obama was an ideologue, Trumps not. More importantly, he wants to get things done---unless I'm wrong, he'll make deals to do it.

Obama was my way or the highway.
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Bones are just that .. bones.

Any democrat who accepts bones should be thrown out of office.

Treat him like the right treated Obama.

Sounds fair to me.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Depending on how you take it.

For the sake of argument we'll stipulate that Trump is/was a womanizer of sorts. If you want to label him misogynistic on that count fine.

In terms of the election, who the frick was Hillary to go on about it? Didn't she get rich taking money from the Saudis and other Middle East countries? Take a trip there and you might see the distinction between a man who likes the ladies and men who will brutalize them, and at times kill them, for the flimsiest of reasons---and get away with it! The latter are misogynistic in Big Neon Lights but Hillary got a pass because she's a democrat.
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IMO this is a red herring. We are talking about the US election and a particular candidate's comments about women he dealt with here. And if trump is serious about not allowing Muslims including brutalized women into the country until they pass some sort of test, then he gets black marks for that, too.
 
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Darth Hussein Omar said:
You're grasping at straws. Trump can't be a sexist and entrust his campaign to a woman all at once: that's a contradiction.

Why don't you admit you and the media went overboard with the misogyny thing? Trump is [perhaps was, if you want to give him the benefit on changing his ways] a garden variety womanizer. It's not a great thing but they are dime a dozen and always have been through out history.
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Conway was his last resort, not his first choice.
 
Thing1 said:
I don't think that's true. But it's besides the point - you're trying to dismiss Trump on a technicality. You know exactly what I mean.

Trump's words toward & about women shouldn't be acceptable, and this isn't a "pc" thing. It's just basic respect. What you're engaging in right now is apologism for his behavior & rhetoric. And you do that when you say that "95%" of men think the same way. They don't. Even Howard Stern had a long discussion about this on his show - there is definitely "locker room talk" among men, but it in no way resembles the creepy, entitled and sexist mindset that Trump displayed on that tape, and with many other comments over the years.

Honestly, I didn't think at all that my statement about his issues with women would cause any controversy or objection. You sound exactly like the Clinton apologists who dismissed criticism of his affair with a young intern as "consenting adults." Give me a break. Trump is a pig when it comes to women.
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SmarterthanYou said:
how is it that I don't remember hours of coverage about Trump trying to de-legitimize Obama?
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The mind boggles. trump spent EIGHT YEARS trying to de-legitimize Obama with his lying birtherism. Do you recall when he finally retracted that? September 2016, six weeks before the election.

9 of the nastiest things Trump said about Obama

1. Trump started out by saying that Obama was not born in the United States
2. ‘President Obama has been the most ignorant president in our history’
3. ‘He has been a disaster’
4. Trump called the president the ‘founder of ISIS’
5. ‘I believe I know far more about foreign policy than he knows’
6. Trump said the country’s generals were ‘reduced to rubble’ under Obama
7. He said Obama was ‘concerned I’m going to win’
8. He called Obamacare a ‘catastrophe’
9. Trump said he would have beaten the president in 2012
 
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