NYT op-ed demands voting rights for felons. Democrats love this.

[Text Drivers are Killers]

OK dems, then lets also return gun rights to felons. Hell - gun rights are a constitutional right while voting is not.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/...llection/sectioncollection/opinion-editorials

jan 2 2018 Today, Florida disenfranchises almost 1.5 million of its citizens, more than 11 states’ populations and roughly a quarter of the more than six million Americans who are unable to vote because of a criminal record.

Felon disenfranchisement is a destructive, pointless policy that hurts not only individuals barred from the ballot box, but American democracy at large. Its post-Civil War versions are explicitly racist, and its modern-day rationales are thin to nonexistent. It can make all the difference in places like Florida, which didn’t stop being competitive in 2000; the state remains a major presidential battleground, and victories for both parties in state and local elections are often narrow.

That could all change if a proposed constitutional amendment gets enough signatures to be placed on the ballot in November and wins enough support. The initiative would automatically restore voting rights to the vast majority of Floridians who have completed their sentence for a felony conviction, including any term of parole or probation.

 

[Phantasmal]

I sure do, once you serve your time, you should be able to vote. You should not be punished indefinitely.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

Criminals and illegals are the dem voting base.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

I sure do, once you serve your time, you should be able to vote. You should not be punished indefinitely.

But when it comes to constitutional GUN rights, you libs say --- no way. HYPOCRITE.

 

[Cypress]

OK dems, then lets also return gun rights to felons. Hell - gun rights are a constitutional right while voting is not.

People who paid their due to society should not be permanently stripped of a fundamental right.

 

[cawacko]

People who paid their due to society should not be permanently stripped of a fundamental right.

For the sake of discussion do you believe the same about felons and guns?

 

[evince]

if a country fears the votes of felons they must be imprisoning too many people

 

[Cypress]

For the sake of discussion do you believe the same about felons and guns?

I am surprised to find you have libeling me in private. At least according to Yurt, if he is to be believed.
So basically, you can fuck off.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I am surprised to find you have libeling me in private. At least according to Yurt, if he is to be believed.
So basically, you can fuck off.

is that an excuse to avoid answering such a direct question?

 

[cawacko]

I am surprised to find you have libeling me in private. At least according to Yurt, if he is to be believed.
So basically, you can fuck off.

First off I have no idea what you are talking about.

Second I have Yurt on ignore and don't talk to him on this board let alone any private conversation.

Why are you talking to him?

 

[cawacko]

I am surprised to find you have libeling me in private. At least according to Yurt, if he is to be believed.
So basically, you can fuck off.

Maybe there is a joke here that I'm missing but aren't you libeling me by claiming I talk to Yurt privately?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

felons and criminals are an important demmycrat voting block......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I am surprised to find you have libeling me in private. At least according to Yurt, if he is to be believed.
So basically, you can fuck off.

actually it was grind, it was in public (it is impossible to "libel" someone in private) and truth is a legal defense to libel.....are you formally denying what he stated?......

 

[evince]

if a country fears the votes of felons they must be imprisoning too many people

all people should be able to vote

 

[Cancel 2018.1]

People who paid their due to society should not be permanently stripped of a fundamental right.

What do you think of this?

Felons in county jails to be allowed to vote in California elections
http://www.latimes.com/politics/ess...-be-allowed-to-vote-1475094969-htmlstory.html

I swear that state really needs to fall off into the Pacific. It's already gone off the deep end.

 

[Phantasmal]

is that an excuse to avoid answering such a direct question?

I believe that if they are no longer on parole, and their time was not a violent crime, they should have the right to own a gun.

 

[Cancel 2018.1]

all people should be able to vote

Agreed. All people should be able to avoid being criminals.

 

[cawacko]

actually it was grind, it was in public (it is impossible to "libel" someone in private) and truth is a legal defense to libel.....are you formally denying what he stated?......

This is what he's talking about? So not only is he confusing me with Grind he's claiming what Grind wrote on this public board is something I said in private?

That's a serious 0 - 2 right there.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I believe that if they are no longer on parole, and their time was not a violent crime, they should have the right to own a gun.

kudos, but what if they were convicted of a violent crime? should they be denied the equal right of self preservation?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Agreed. All people should be able to avoid being criminals.

you have no right to not be framed by your government, so no.....you do not get the choice to avoid being a criminal if the government wants you to be.