Would you still support Trump if he betrayed the country?

archives said:
There you go with that antiquated triangulate policy again, did you happen to notice that it was recommended by Kissinger, who is or close to ninety and hasn't been a important figure in decades? It is 19th Century thinking that partially led to some of the worse disaster in the 20th Century.

And if anyone is being triangulated it is the US with Trump's "America first" whatever that is. We got Russia caught ignoring Trump's sanctions on North Korea and China opening up new trade agreements with Western democracies
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you moron.
Triangulation is anytime you split another alliance by common interests applied to either of the allied parties.
It happens all the time, not just superpowers.

Nixon triangulated against the USSR by 'ping pong diplomacy' with China.
It opened up US / China relations, which weakened China/USSR relations.

Kissinger was the first one to state the term (i think), but the practice is as old as nation states/diplomacy.

It's a dynamic -dynamics of relationships are eternal.

you could even triangulate on a personal level by befriending say 1 partner in a business relationship.
You weasel in good with 1 person, to try to split an existing friend/partner away from the other.

Your example makes no sense. You seriously do not under stand the dynamics at all.
 
anatta said:
you moron.
Triangulation is anytime you split another alliance by common interests applied to either of the allied parties.
It happens all the time, not just superpowers.

Nixon triangulated against the USSR by 'ping pong diplomacy' with China.
It opened up US / China relations, which weakened China/USSR relations.

Kissinger was the first one to state the term (i think), but the practice is as old as nation states/diplomacy.

It's a dynamic -dynamics of relationships are eternal.

you could even triangulate on a personal level by befriending say 1 partner in a business relationship.
You weasel in good with 1 person, to try to split an existing friend/partner away from the other.

Your example makes no sense. You seriously do not under stand the dynamics at all.
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Ah, no, the actual geopolitical term dates back to Bismark's Realpolitik and Britian's balance of power policies. As I said, it's antiquated, it is not a game of Risk, dipolomacy is more than choosing up sides on the playground

And if anyone is succeeding at splitting alliances it is China and Russia, China economically and Russia politically, and you can attribute that to Trump and his wayward policies
 
DISBAND ICE said:
I'm predicting no direct answer to this question from rightists. Because they know they would, not even a second would their hearts waver in choosing Trump over country.
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Wrong shit-for-brains; no one likes to answer strawmen in threads intended for trolling. Now be a good dumbfuck and shut the fuck up.
 
CharacterAssassin said:
Except, of course, for the pesky little fact that there's absolutely no credible evidence for that being the case.
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There is every evidence of that. The lack of evidence comes from morons like oyu who want to paint the man as a racist, bigot, treasonous criminal. Although I can wait till there is a Democrat in the White House next time, you morons on the left have lost any credibility to whine when we treat your idiots as badly as you treat Republicans.
 
LV426 said:
Of course they will.

Cult members will drink poison kool-aid if their leader told them to.

We've already seen this play out numerous times before; Jonestown, Waco, etc.

We know how this script ends.
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What they will do and do do is severely constrain their definition of what IS betrayal do eliminate admitting the truth that is "yes, they would support him if he betrayed the country."

He's already done it, and they are still supporting him, according to most people's definition of betrayal of the US. It's unthinkable that Trump was ever elected president.
 
It's fun to watch clowns post to people they know have them on ignore.

Nothing like the sweet, fetid stench of desperation for attention from trained monkeys who obediently do the little monkey-dances they've been taught.

Dance, monkey!! Dance!
 
Cypress said:
According to the stalwart conservative magazine Weekly Standard, Trump has a habit of blaming America first.
He is actually doing what the Reichwing falsely accused Obama of doing - blaming America and going on apology tours.
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This from a moron who supported Obama who did NOTHING when it came to Syrian WMDs, Ukraine and Georgia? STFU, seriously.
 
seeker said:
Trump loves Trump. He has no conception of American values and cares less.

The OP asks a viable question. I think the answer is, Trump's dupes would convince themselves that betrayal is just what America needs to make it great again. Some crap like that.
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The OP asked a moronic question based on a strawman. Grow a fucking brain you loon.
 
Micawber said:
What they will do and do do is severely constrain their definition of what IS betrayal do eliminate admitting the truth that is "yes, they would support him if he betrayed the country."

He's already done it, and they are still supporting him, according to most people's definition of betrayal of the US. It's unthinkable that Trump was ever elected president.
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Truth Detector said:
Wrong shit-for-brains; no one likes to answer strawmen in threads intended for trolling. Now be a good dumbfuck and shut the fuck up.
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Why would a liar like you want others to shut up when your own ignorance, and stupidity, is pointed out? Trump has already betrayed American values, and norms, and yet you still support him. It is going to be proven he has betrayed America itself, and you will still vote for him. That is ll that useful idiots like you are good for.

There is every evidence of that. The lack of evidence comes from morons like oyu who want to paint the man as a racist, bigot, treasonous criminal. Although I can wait till there is a Democrat in the White House next time, you morons on the left have lost any credibility to whine when we treat your idiots as badly as you treat Republicans.
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Doing what you have done for the past 30 years is nothing new. Just the same old hypocrisy. No one on the left has lied, or ignored traditional norms, as your dog has. Go lay in the corner poodle boy.
 
archives said:
Ah, no, the actual geopolitical term dates back to Bismark's Realpolitik and Britian's balance of power policies. As I said, it's antiquated, it is not a game of Risk, dipolomacy is more than choosing up sides on the playground

And if anyone is succeeding at splitting alliances it is China and Russia, China economically and Russia politically, and you can attribute that to Trump and his wayward policies
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you still don't get it, or are you willfully ignorant of the dynamics?
I'm not sure where the term "triangulation"actually came from - but the term isn't important the dynamics are.
Dynamics do NOT CHANGE over time -they are extant.

I gave you the classic example of the Nixon triangulating against the USSR -that is not some 19th century
out of date concept. it lives on today.

And if anyone is succeeding at splitting alliances it is China and Russia, China economically and Russia politically, and you can attribute that to Trump and his wayward policies
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^ that is unattributed gibberish. Sorry but it makes no sense as written.
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What has actually happened is that constantly cornering Russia thru sanctions has driven China and Russia
closer and closer in matters of military, but also economic alliances.

As I've said a zillion times Russia has really good weapons systems -as good as ours in many cases -
but doesn't have the resources to challenge NATO.

China on the other hand is wealthy, but doesn't have the engineering ability of Russia.
What do you think happens when they are driven together?
they are now an engineering beast with the money to develop and fund top notch weapons systems.

What's the best course of action for the USA? attempt to split that alliance in as many ways as possible
( triangulate),and that can only be done by improving US /Russian relations
 
DISBAND ICE said:
If Trump openly betrayed America, would you still support him?
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I will never believe any charged leveled against President Trump by deep state traitors. I will defend him to my dying breath.

No matter what happens the mere fact that he kept Hillary Clinton out of the White House will always be a patriotic act. Keeping her from wreaking left wing havoc on our country and stacking the court with left wing loons deserves a place on Mount Rushmore.
 
Old Trapper said:
Why would a liar like you want others to shut up when your own ignorance, and stupidity, is pointed out? Trump has already betrayed American values, and norms, and yet you still support him. It is going to be proven he has betrayed America itself, and you will still vote for him. That is ll that useful idiots like you are good for.
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Dear asshole; I don't lie. If you find a lie I post, we can discuss. Until then, stop acting like a fucking retard oin steroids and bloviating about stuff you know NOTHING about Mkay snowflake? Now be a good dunce and STFU.

Old Trapper said:
Doing what you have done for the past 30 years is nothing new. Just the same old hypocrisy. No one on the left has lied, or ignored traditional norms, as your dog has. Go lay in the corner poodle boy.
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Go fuck yourself you ignorant dunce. Life is too short for your special brand of stupidity.
 
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