Poll: Large majorities of Americans want to preserve Obamacare's consumer protections

Cypress said:
I think you would be actually amazed at how many rightwingers (including many on this board) are directly benefiting from Obamacare (pre-existing conditions coverage, coverage for adult children, et al.), Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare, and the broader universe of Kenyan-Marxist government funded health care programs.

When you get right down to it, most rightwingers are socialists themselves at heart. It's just that they think there are certain, "ahem", groups of people that do not deserve the socialism they are used to receiving themselves.
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I'm a (classic) liberal , self employed small business owner whose employes got royally fucked by ACA. As did I, but not as bad as them. But that's always been the goal of modern liberalism - penalize the responsible, reward the irresponsible.
We loose, the irresponsible outnumber the responsible . Doesn't matter. I'm clever enough to still take advantage of you.
 
CFM said:
They're not in the business to lose money you stupid motherfucker.
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You're not wrong but............any (decent) human being can see that's the problem right there. For-profit "health"care will let people die for fatcats' bottom lines. This is why I don't have health insurance, I have a health share. More people should follow suit imho. Health should be the priority in healthcare, not money. We're literally putting a price on human life and that's an egregious moral error.
 
Insurance firms exist to make money by giving you less care. Use the state, like sensible people.
 
CFM said:
Still making claims with nothing to back them up, huh?
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What claims did I make? I merely said that there will come a point where you inadvertently slip up and reveal a clue about your identity. Then, it's only a few keystrokes and your entire personal history is splashed across the internet, and your racist posts -on company time, it seems- are sent to your boss.

Then who will pay for your health care?
 
CFM said:
I don't think your brain can be developed enough to understand the one that has been given. A below average IQ isn't working well for you.
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You didn't give an explanation and now you're resorting to just parroting my posts because you lack the ability and creativity to come up with anything of your own.
 
anonymoose said:
I'm a (classic) liberal , self employed small business owner whose employes got royally fucked by ACA. As did I, but not as bad as them. But that's always been the goal of modern liberalism - penalize the responsible, reward the irresponsible.
We loose, the irresponsible outnumber the responsible . Doesn't matter. I'm clever enough to still take advantage of you.
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Of course, this is bullshit.

Small businesses under 50 employees were exempt from the mandate to provide insurance, and the ACA offered massive tax credits to any small business under 50 employees that does provide them with coverage.

You guys can't even lie effectively. You're all liars. You lie about yourselves on anonymous message boards in order to lend your shitty arguments credibility they don't otherwise have on the facts or merits.

You're a fraud. And you know it.
 
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LV426 said:
Of course, this is bullshit.

Small businesses under 50 employees were exempt from the mandate to provide insurance, and the ACA offered massive tax credits to any small business under 50 employees that does provide them with coverage.

You guys can't even lie effectively. You're all liars. You lie about yourselves on anonymous message boards in order to lend your shitty arguments credibility they don't otherwise have on the facts or merits.

You're a fraud. And you know it.
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... while claiming yo be a 'classic' liberal.

Everything it said was a lie.
 
blackascoal said:
... while claiming yo be a 'classic' liberal.

Everything it said was a lie.
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Conservatives act exclusively in bad faith because being Conservative means sacrificing your moral character to achieve purely selfish goals.

Every single Conservative is guilty of this. Having Conservative beliefs means you have inherent bad faith. It means you can't be trusted to be honest. Conservatives come on boards like these and play pretend; they pretend to be small business owners, they pretend to be veterans, they pretend to be educated, they pretend to be successful. It's all an act to mask the crippling insecurities they have at not achieving anything in life despite having every institutional advantage available to them.

They're the stupid-and-proud-of-it clowns who all supported Bush the Dumber because they wanted to have a beer with him...even though he is a recovering alcoholic and couldn't drink with them even if he wanted to (which he doesn't).
 
LV426 said:
Conservatives act exclusively in bad faith because being Conservative means sacrificing your moral character to achieve purely selfish goals.

Every single Conservative is guilty of this. Having Conservative beliefs means you have inherent bad faith. It means you can't be trusted to be honest. Conservatives come on boards like these and play pretend; they pretend to be small business owners, they pretend to be veterans, they pretend to be educated, they pretend to be successful. It's all an act to mask the crippling insecurities they have at not achieving anything in life despite having every institutional advantage available to them.

They're the stupid-and-proud-of-it clowns who all supported Bush the Dumber because they wanted to have a beer with him...even though he is a recovering alcoholic and couldn't drink with them even if he wanted to (which he doesn't).
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I absolutely agree.
 
blackascoal said:
Congressional Republicans and the Trump administration tried unsuccessfully last year to roll back those protections, often arguing that they made health plans too costly.
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except no one tried to do anything to eliminate coverage for preexisting illness.......that sort of fucks up your whole argument......
 
TrippyHippy said:
You're not wrong but............any (decent) human being can see that's the problem right there. For-profit "health"care will let people die for fatcats' bottom lines. This is why I don't have health insurance, I have a health share. More people should follow suit imho. Health should be the priority in healthcare, not money. We're literally putting a price on human life and that's an egregious moral error.
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Why is not covering something for which the coverage doesn't exist as part of the policy a bad thing?
 
LV426 said:
What claims did I make? I merely said that there will come a point where you inadvertently slip up and reveal a clue about your identity. Then, it's only a few keystrokes and your entire personal history is splashed across the internet, and your racist posts -on company time, it seems- are sent to your boss.

Then who will pay for your health care?
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You don't remember?
 
LV426 said:
You didn't give an explanation and now you're resorting to just parroting my posts because you lack the ability and creativity to come up with anything of your own.
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You keep making excuses because you didn't agree with the explanation. When YOUR entire argument about general welfare centers around you wanting something provided by the government that you're jealous someone else earned, it invalidates whatever you claim.
 
CFM said:
Why is not covering something for which the coverage doesn't exist as part of the policy a bad thing?
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I don't expect you to understand. You've already said here before if it doesn't affect you, it doesn't matter to you. Your healthcare is great, apparently, so why should you give a shit if other people aren't covered? Hence, why I said any decent human being can see the problem. You don't apply.
 
TrippyHippy said:
I don't expect you to understand. You've already said here before if it doesn't affect you, it doesn't matter to you. Your healthcare is great, apparently, so why should you give a shit if other people aren't covered?
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I understood completely. You want someone to get coverage under a healthcare policy for which the coverage isn't part of the policy because 'it's the nice things to do'.

Because they're not my responsibility. It isn't about whether or not other people are covered. It's about the whiners that aren't paying for certain provisions of a policy yet still want to be covered as if they did.

Not providing someone with something for which they didn't pay has nothing to do with being or not being decent. It has to do with being smart. Should an apartment complex provide a place to someone that isn't paying rent? A car dealer let you drive a car off the lot if you don't pay? A gas station let you pump gas if you don't give them the price/gallon for it?
 
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What we need to do is stop calling it Obama care and start calling it dump care.

He hurt Obamacare/ACA in his first year.

This is the republican health care plan.

The changes the republicans made to Obamacare is as follows:

Limited support for open enrollment
Killed the cost-sharing subsidies
Eliminated individual mandate
Gave states more control over Medicaid programs
Proposed small business to buy health insurance together
Encouraged the sale of short term health plans
Weakened the contraception mandate
Tightened the rules for consumers seeking coverage while loosening them for insurers

It's no longer Obama care.

The dump media won't report this so they can have Americans believe Obamacare isn't working.

Don't be fooled.
 
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