U.N. racism investigator to visit U.S. from Monday

meme said:
:rolleyes:

By Stephanie Nebehay

GENEVA (Reuters) - A special U.N. human rights investigator will visit the United States this month to probe racism, an issue that has forced its way into the race to secure the Democratic Party's presidential nomination.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/poli...Type=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true
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Why are cons so afraid of any scrutiny about problems in the U.S.? It must be the authoritarian nature of Cons; always obey Dear Leader, never admit any errors, and never allow any form of international scrutiny of the U.S. to undermine the "We're Number One!" narrative.

The article states that our country signed an International Treaty on racial injustice. I'm not afraid of any international scrutiny of our record of compliance with that treaty we signed. I wouldn't care if we had a Democratic President or a Republican one. We certainly expect North Korea, Iran, and South Africa to submit to international scrutiny and UN investigators with respect to their compliance with international treaties.

Racial disparity, especially in our criminal justice system, is an established and undeniable fact in this country. Even the cowardly Democrats have done precious little to mitigate these racial injustices. The Con fear of black UN helicopters flying into this country under cover of darkness is something that crybabies need to get over. The UN has no force of law in this country, all they can do is observe and report on racial injustices that occur in this country. Why would I be afraid of that? It's an issue that deserves more attention, whether it be in the editorial pages of The Nation magazine, or in reports given to International Commissions.


A U.N. panel which examined the U.S. record on racial discrimination last March urged the United States to halt racial profiling of Americans of Arab, Muslim and South Asian descent and to ensure immigrants and non-nationals are not mistreated.

It also said America should impose a moratorium on the death penalty and stop sentencing young offenders to life in prison until it can root out racial bias from its justice system.

Racial minorities were more likely than whites to be sentenced to death or to life without parole as juveniles, according to the U.N. Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination. It monitors compliance with an international treaty which Washington ratified in 1994.

U.S. officials told the body, made up of 18 independent experts, that they were combating hate crimes such as displays of hangman's nooses and police brutality against minorities.
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I could care less what the Useless Nations finds out in America. I still want to know who ASKED them to come here. Why do you insist on assuming anyone is afraid of them? They have proved themselves impotant over and over.
 
Dilloduck said:
I could care less what the Useless Nations finds out in America.
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Not surprising, that you wouldn't care, given you statements in other threads pertaining to issues of race.

I still want to know who ASKED them to come here. Why do you insist on assuming anyone is afraid of them? They have proved themselves impotant over and over.
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Please don't ask questions, over and over, that were answered in the article posted. Our government invited them. That means, the Bush adminstration, which as the Executive Branch, is responsible for foreign policy and adminstrative matters related to the UN.

This UN investigator toured Brazil in 2005, Japan in 2006, and Switzerland in 2007 on fact finding missions, pertaining to their committments to the international treaty on racial equality. I hope you're not pretending that the U.S. was singled out for special scrutiny. A five second search on google would inform you that countries from across the globe who, like us, signed the international treaty on racial issues, are periodically subjected to international scrutiny.

I don't have a problem with that kind of scrutiny. Any kind of attention to boost the profile of issues of racial inequality is well worth it. It's an issue too often ignored in favor of stuff like flag lapel pins, and who did, or didn't put their hand over their heart for the National Anthem.
 
Cypress said:
Not surprising, that you wouldn't care, given you statements in other threads pertaining to issues of race.



Please don't ask questions, over and over, that were answered in the article posted. Our government invited them. That means, the Bush adminstration, which as the Executive Branch, is responsible for foreign policy and adminstrative matters related to the UN.

This UN investigator toured Brazil in 2005, Japan in 2006, and Switzerland in 2007 on fact finding missions, pertaining to their committments to the international treaty on racial equality. I hope you're not pretending that the U.S. was singled out for special scrutiny. A five second search on google would inform you that countries from across the globe who, like us, signed the international treaty on racial issues, are periodically subjected to international scrutiny.

I don't have a problem with that kind of scrutiny. Any kind of attention to boost the profile of issues of racial inequality is well worth it. It's an issue too often ignored in favor of stuff like flag lapel pins, and who did, or didn't put their hand over their heart for the National Anthem.
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I believe that thread was locked for a reason by the owner but if you wanna start bringing it up you might check with him.

My question is WHO in the govt invited this investigation. If you can provide a link ( with an actual NAME and department ) I would greatly appreciate it.
 
This investigation doesn't help Obama's campaign, in fact it hurts it.

Americans can only tolerate race issues a few at a time.

That being said, no matter what side of the issue one may be on, RACE has become front and center in today's America.

Just look at this board lately.

Substantive policy differences have given way to discussions about race .. and as is on this board, there is a wall between perspectives that ain't getting crossed .. by some. .. and that "some" is the real point.

Movements don't need everybody, nor does change.

In my opinion, those who just don't get it .. fuck 'em.

With all that is known today and you still have no understanding of the impact of not just 400 years of the horror and terrorism of racism has on people or even care that it still blatantly and openly exists in America today .. then fuck you.

It's just that simple.
 
The really good thing is the youth in this country know.

They for the most part have been "mysoginated" and have friends, dates, room mates and family members of differing backgrounds.

The days are coiming to a close on this stupidity. Yeah some will hide in their caves and hang on to thier fears ,But we are about to hire the first black president and the peopel will see a relatively young black man honered as the leader of our country ALL OVER THE WORLD.

I am now prouder of my current state than ever in my life time. They just gave Pesident Obama Nevadas delegate count , He won Nevada!
 
Desh said:
The really good thing is the youth in this country know.

They for the most part have been "mysoginated" and have friends, dates, room mates and family members of differing backgrounds.

The days are coiming to a close on this stupidity. Yeah some will hide in their caves and hang on to thier fears ,But we are about to hire the first black president and the peopel will see a relatively young black man honered as the leader of our country ALL OVER THE WORLD.

I am now prouder of my current state than ever in my life time. They just gave Pesident Obama Nevadas delegate count , He won Nevada!
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Watch out sister .. now you're sounding like Michelle Obama. :)

But you're right about the youth who have been in many ways the driving force behind this change in American conscious. Obama is a statement of a evolving America in more ways than one.

The days of the neanderhal are coming to an end .. and like the neanderthals of history, evolution is what will kill them.
 
I did that one on purpose!

My state is transforming from a right leaning state to a very diverse and open minded melting pot.
 
Desh said:
The really good thing is the youth in this country know.

They for the most part have been "mysoginated" and have friends, dates, room mates and family members of differing backgrounds.

The days are coiming to a close on this stupidity. Yeah some will hide in their caves and hang on to thier fears ,But we are about to hire the first black president and the peopel will see a relatively young black man honered as the leader of our country ALL OVER THE WORLD.

I am now prouder of my current state than ever in my life time. They just gave Pesident Obama Nevadas delegate count , He won Nevada!
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True, I think those under the age of 40 or 50 are more socially liberal, less racist, and more tolerent than previous generations. But, one can be as tolerent as they want, and yet the institutions of oppression can still exist. Vermont might be the most liberal, tolerant place in the United States, but I still think the yoke of bias and inequity still afflicts them.

Desh, California just elected the first female african american Speaker of the Legislature in the history of the nation. She's now officially the highest ranking elected female african american in the nation. Karen Bass, she's awesome. :clink:
 
Ill have to check her out.

I have to admitt I have been glad I never had to live in Cali with Arrnold at the helm.
 
blackascoal said:
This investigation doesn't help Obama's campaign, in fact it hurts it.

Americans can only tolerate race issues a few at a time.

That being said, no matter what side of the issue one may be on, RACE has become front and center in today's America.

Just look at this board lately.

Substantive policy differences have given way to discussions about race .. and as is on this board, there is a wall between perspectives that ain't getting crossed .. by some. .. and that "some" is the real point.

Movements don't need everybody, nor does change.

In my opinion, those who just don't get it .. fuck 'em.

With all that is known today and you still have no understanding of the impact of not just 400 years of the horror and terrorism of racism has on people or even care that it still blatantly and openly exists in America today .. then fuck you.

It's just that simple.
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In other words you have no idea who invited the Useless Nations to investigate America?
 
Dilloduck said:
In other words you have no idea who invited the Useless Nations to investigate America?
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No, I don't .. but I'm not sure they need to be invited.

What I don't believe in is American exceptionalism. We should be judged as all others are judged and should play by the same rules we expect of other nations.
 
meme said:
Uh yeah..we are so racist in the U.S, that people are dying trying to get into our country..

the U.N. has no problem putting the United States down, yet look at all the parts of the world they turn a blind eye at..

And they have no business poking their nose in our Presidents elections, and I'd like to know who invited this joke on us..Obama? the Democrats?

BS..
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First off, as has been pointed out to you repeatedly, the US invited him in. But much more importantly, WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES DO! We are the city on the hill! We are the beacon of freedom and liberty that is SUPPOSED to be inviting to the rest of the world. And if, in spite of that status, there are STILL things to be corrected in this country, if there are still wrongs that need to be righted, and someone with a fresh perspective can come here and point out some of the things that we can't see because of our proximity to the problems, then all the better. This is what I have NEVER understood about the right. When people try to point out the mistakes that the US has made, and some that they continue to make, you want to shut them up, tell them not to say anything because maybe if we just don't talk about it the rest of the world will not know that ENTIRE state police forces are at this very moment under consent decrees for racial profiling. When I read Jefferson and Madison and Franklin, I KNOW what they had in mind. I KNOW that all three of those men would find things like waterboarding abhorent, and the weakening of our freedoms contained in the Patriot Act would fill them with revulsion. Frankliln's quote about giving up freedom in exchange for saftey WAS not conditional on being under attack, it was ABSOLUTE. Madison seems almost psychic with his warning "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." Jefferson, who warned Adams, with veiled threats of possible revolution, against signing the Alien and Sedition Acts into law and then pardoned all who were convicted under them, would be enraged at unilateral acts of this president. If ANYONE can help us to regain the reputation of the City on the Hill, and a beacon of freedom, then welcome that person in with open arms and listen to them.
 
Socrates said:
First off, as has been pointed out to you repeatedly, the US invited him in. But much more importantly, WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES DO! We are the city on the hill! We are the beacon of freedom and liberty that is SUPPOSED to be inviting to the rest of the world. And if, in spite of that status, there are STILL things to be corrected in this country, if there are still wrongs that need to be righted, and someone with a fresh perspective can come here and point out some of the things that we can't see because of our proximity to the problems, then all the better. This is what I have NEVER understood about the right. When people try to point out the mistakes that the US has made, and some that they continue to make, you want to shut them up, tell them not to say anything because maybe if we just don't talk about it the rest of the world will not know that ENTIRE state police forces are at this very moment under consent decrees for racial profiling. When I read Jefferson and Madison and Franklin, I KNOW what they had in mind. I KNOW that all three of those men would find things like waterboarding aberrant, and the weakening of our freedoms contained in the Patriot Act would fill them with revulsion. Franklin quote about giving up freedom in exchange for safety WAS not conditional on being under attack, it was ABSOLUTE. Madison seems almost psychic with his warning "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." Jefferson, who warned Adams, with veiled threats of possible revolution, against signing the Alien and Sedition Acts into law and then pardoned all who were convicted under them, would be enraged at unilateral acts of this president. If ANYONE can help us to regain the reputation of the City on the Hill, and a beacon of freedom, then welcome that person in with open arms and listen to them.
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Not to worry...we will soon be governed by the UN as most people seem to want..than all will be Utopia..
 
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Desh said:
Ill have to check her out.

I have to admitt I have been glad I never had to live in Cali with Arrnold at the helm.
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I can't wait to hear this one. What has Arnold done to California that makes you so happy not to live here?
 
Socrtease said:
First off, as has been pointed out to you repeatedly, the US invited him in. ...
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Where did you find the 'US invited him in? The Reuter's article leaves a different impression:

http://www.reuters.com/article/poli...Type=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

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Diene, a Senegalese lawyer who has served in the independent post since 2002, will report his findings to the U.N. Human Rights Council next year.

However, the United Nations has almost no clout when it comes to U.S. domestic affairs and is widely perceived by many as interfering. The United States is not among the 47 member states of the Geneva-based forum, but has observer status.

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