HUGE!! Trump to end birthright citizenship!!!

Kudzu- "the constitution says 1 plus 1 =2"
Grugore- "The intent of the constitution, despite that it says "1 plus 1 =2," means 1 plus 1 =fish"

I'll await the fishy evidence of their intent.


It will likely include some Birthery type De Vattel bullshit that was thrown out in about googol plex lawsuits.
I prefer Blackstone, myself, and the clear and unequivocal language of the law.

Quick make a phonecall to your co-counsel Orly Taitz! The dentist lawyer who was sanctioned for her frivolous lawsuit against Obama.
 
It was carefully written, at that time, to exclude Native Americans, hence the use of Jurisdiction.
Nope
The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was one of the three Reconstruction Amendments which, along with the 13th and 15th, was primarily intended to establish equal civil rights for former slaves. It was passed by Congress on June 13, 1866, and ratified by the states as of July 9, 1868.
 

Yes, but carefully worded to exclude the Native Americans, whose political jurisdiction were in their own nations, though they were born here they were not included as citizens and they didn't want them to be. Native Americans were not counted among the citizens of the United States until 1924... when Congress granted them citizenship. Until that time this Amendment did not count them among the number of people under the Jurisdiction of the United States. Even if they were outside their reservations...
 
Illegal woman comes to US and works as a maid cleaning Trump hotels for 10 years, gets raped
by a Trumptard disciple and gives birth in US. Child grows up and becomes a medical doctor for 25 years.
Trump signs an executive order banning birthright citizenship and ICE rounds her up during a brain surgery
and deports him/her.

These Trumpkins think that mom's status as undocumented should determine whether
this person gets to be a citizen in the only country he/she has ever known?

Take the locus of your attention off what the undocumented immigrant did and focus on the
child born here and your opinion on this should change, Republitard, unless you have no moral at all.
 
IMO, this is simply to force the SCOTUS to rule on the Amendment, whether Jurisdiction in the Amendment means political jurisdiction or legal definition (according to the OP)... Or he's going to do it some tricky and convoluted way, if he does it at all.

Trump has no standing.
 
How many times must the board explain this? The 14A does NOT mandate birthright citizenship. Kids born to an illegal mother are not subject to the POLITICAL jurisdiction of america. THINK, white-hating racist.

Not according to the Supreme Court. Your interpretation is the minority view. See federal law I posted above explaining who is included in those not subject to U. S. jurisdiction--it only applies to foreign diplomatic personnel.

Even if we don't consider the 14th Congress has constitutional authority to make naturalization policy and it designate citizenship for those born here except diplomats.

"White hating racist"? You are the only one who brought up race--I never mentioned it. You and a few others make everything racial.
 
Tell us, who is going to have standing?
Congress would have standing, considering they were given the power to decide citizenship. Also anybody whose citizenship was denied by the Executive Order, cities who have decided to be sanctuary cities and do not wish to change given the status of newborns... etc. People affected by the law would have standing.
 
Britian's constitution is not written out.

Which makes it useless in curbing the powers of government considering the legislative branch of Parliament is the "supreme and final source of law" all it takes to change the uncodified constitution is a simple vote of Parliament.
 
The intent of the Constitution is clear. It refers to children who were born of parents who were here LEGALLY. Show me where the Constitution mentions anchor babies.

Show us where the Constitution says citizenship for those born here must have parents who are here legally. If it is "clear" it must be written clearly in the amendment.
 
IMO, this is simply to force the SCOTUS to rule on the Amendment, whether Jurisdiction in the Amendment means political jurisdiction or legal definition (according to the OP)... Or he's going to do it some tricky and convoluted way, if he does it at all.

The SC would not be ruling on the amendment. They would be ruling on the president's power to change the Constitution by executive order.

They already ruled on this issue in U. S. vs. Wong Kim Ark
 
Congress would have standing, considering they were given the power to decide citizenship. Also anybody whose citizenship was denied by the Executive Order, cities who have decided to be sanctuary cities and do not wish to change given the status of newborns... etc. People affected by the law would have standing.

Here's the deal.

The citizenship clause is already in the Constitution. Congress can't change that. No standing.

The only possible people affected by the law are those born here that are denied citizenship. Do you really think that is going to happen?
 
The SC would not be ruling on the amendment. They would be ruling on the president's power to change the Constitution by executive order.

They already ruled on this issue in U. S. vs. Wong Kim Ark

Don't always agree with you, but good clarity on this issue.
 
The SC would not be ruling on the amendment. They would be ruling on the president's power to change the Constitution by executive order.

They already ruled on this issue in U. S. vs. Wong Kim Ark

It really depends on how he words it and what they decide. I still believe that this is a ploy to get a ruling on the Amendment itself. You'll notice that this did not grant citizenship to the Native Americans... Which, again, were granted citizenship by act of Congress in 1924... The ruling on jurisdiction is necessary. Personally I think it would go against Trump.
 
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