HUGE!! Trump to end birthright citizenship!!!

[Text Drivers are Killers]

In other words, you do not believe in the rule of law. But we already knew that. Illegal aliens, nor their children belong here. It sucks for the kids, but we must follow the rule of law. Otherwise, there is no law.

If dems want the illegals to stay, then they must petition congress to change the law. That's what reagan did back in 85. It was a a terrible idea but at least it was done legally.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

Would you document exactly where are how Obama tried to change the constitution?

1. DACA - obama gave millions of illegals a card saying they can work here even though the law says they can't . The constitution says the president "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed."

2. Obamacare - the constitution says health care is a state matter.

 

[floridafan]

1. DACA - obama gave millions of illegals a card saying they can work here even though the law says they can't . The constitution says the president "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed."

2. Obamacare - the constitution says health care is a state matter.

Where does it say that health care is a state matter?

 

[floridafan]

1. DACA - obama gave millions of illegals a card saying they can work here even though the law says they can't . The constitution says the president "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed."

2. Obamacare - the constitution says health care is a state matter.

You my dear are the queen of all liars!

 

[Into the Night]

you are just a drug addled liar

While I consider most of the 'drug war' laws to be unconstitutional, I do not mess them myself.

 

[Into the Night]

You don't have enough education to even read and understand it.

The usual cop-out. You do not know my education, and it is irrelevant to the discussion.

 

[Into the Night]

OMG.. You don't even know what "nationalized" means.

It is apparent that you do not speak English. If you wish to continue to undefine words, there is no common tongue between us.

 

[Into the Night]

You're desperate lies are no more than just desperate lies

No counter-argument I see. All you can do is insult and call anyone that disagrees with you a liar.

 

[Into the Night]

The Constitution of Canada is the supreme law in Canada; the country's constitution is an amalgamation of codified acts and uncodified traditions and conventions.Canada is one of the oldest constitutional democracies in the world.

WRONG. The oligarchy can change the 'constitution' of Canada on a whim. There is no constitution in Canada. It is an oligarchy.

 

[Into the Night]

"Uncodified traditions"??? That's BS. A constitution must be written out.

He doesn't understand that Canada is not a democracy either. It's an oligarchy.

 

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ONLY US LAW HAS JURISDICTION IN THE US... OVER EVERYONE ON US SOIL.

WRONG. Legal jurisdiction is not the same as political jurisdiction.

 

[Into the Night]

IMO, this is simply to force the SCOTUS to rule on the Amendment, whether Jurisdiction in the Amendment means political jurisdiction or legal definition (according to the OP)... Or he's going to do it some tricky and convoluted way, if he does it at all.

The Supreme Court does not have authority to change or interpret the Constitution. See Article III of the Constitution of the United States.

 

[Into the Night]

No it doesn't say that.. Anyone on US soil is under US jurisdiction.

The 'anchor baby' policy was instituted by Pres. Kennedy. The 14th amendment was ratified in 1986. The 14th amendment does not grant citizenship to foreign nationals.

 

[Into the Night]

Kudzu- "the constitution says 1 plus 1 =2"
Grugore- "The intent of the constitution, despite that it says "1 plus 1 =2," means 1 plus 1 =fish"

I'll await the fishy evidence of their intent.


It will likely include some Birthery type De Vattel bullshit that was thrown out in about googol plex lawsuits.
I prefer Blackstone, myself, and the clear and unequivocal language of the law.

Quick make a phonecall to your co-counsel Orly Taitz! The dentist lawyer who was sanctioned for her frivolous lawsuit against Obama.

Blackstone is not the law.

 

[Jarod]

If someone born under American Jurisdiction can be barred from Citizenship...

Clearly we can limit access to AR-15's via executive order.

 

[Wolverine]

If someone born under American Jurisdiction can be barred from Citizenship...

Clearly we can limit access to AR-15's via executive order.

You can try!

 

[katzgar]

The 'anchor baby' policy was instituted by Pres. Kennedy. The 14th amendment was ratified in 1986. The 14th amendment does not grant citizenship to foreign nationals.

Actually goes back to 1868 but I'm willing to bet you already knew that

 

[Jarod]

You can try!

I am just sayin, there is more argument about the language in the second amendment than the 13th.

 

[Into the Night]

Yes, but carefully worded to exclude the Native Americans, whose political jurisdiction were in their own nations, though they were born here they were not included as citizens and they didn't want them to be. Native Americans were not counted among the citizens of the United States until 1924... when Congress granted them citizenship. Until that time this Amendment did not count them among the number of people under the Jurisdiction of the United States. Even if they were outside their reservations...

It did not exclude the native American. All people who are born in America is a native American. It is time to drop this PC term for the various American Indian nations and tribes.

The 14th amendment does exclude the American indian from being a citizen of the United States. Their jurisdiction is to their tribe, not to the United States. The 'reservation' system used today is the result of Pres. Jackson's theft of their land and the murder of anyone capable of defending the tribe, then forcing the old, the women, and the sick, to march hundreds of miles to a 'reservation'. Jackson later made a tidy sum selling the stolen land to settlers. Read up on the 'Trail of Tears'.

Today, due to various treaties that exist between the tribes and the government of the United States, many tribes are also considered United States political jurisdiction, and they can participate in national elections. This is due to treaty, not due to the 14th amendment.

 

[Into the Night]

Illegal woman comes to US and works as a maid cleaning Trump hotels for 10 years, gets raped
by a Trumptard disciple and gives birth in US. Child grows up and becomes a medical doctor for 25 years.
Trump signs an executive order banning birthright citizenship and ICE rounds her up during a brain surgery
and deports him/her.

These Trumpkins think that mom's status as undocumented should determine whether
this person gets to be a citizen in the only country he/she has ever known?

Take the locus of your attention off what the undocumented immigrant did and focus on the
child born here and your opinion on this should change, Republitard, unless you have no moral at all.

Making stuff up again?