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You don't want to know about the inaccurate smears of liberals?
Sure you do. You just said so yourself:
So you want to limit others' free speech to accommodate bad faith speech.
You missed the point. By "shut up" I meant quit trying to limit the free speech of ANYBODY else.
What is "bad faith speech"? Does that mean speech you disagree with?
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
The sad thing is America would be a lot greater now if they didn't promote 100 years of segregation after The Emancipation Proclamation was signed.
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
I call bullshit.
Grad degree from Princeton? BWWAAHAHAHA!!!
If anyone ever doubted that Yert was full of shit, the above comment should erase all of that doubt.
My six year old boy came home from school and he said Trump is a liar. LMAO.
Good boy Good school.
Just another idiot that was able to be indoctrinated. Not real sure why you'd be proud of someone so easily manipulated but he is following is daddy's footsteps, if he is yours.
The sad thing is America would be a lot greater now if they didn't promote 100 years of segregation after The Emancipation Proclamation was signed.
It would be greater if those that were't part of it would stop thinking someone owes them something for it.
You don't want to know about the inaccurate smears of liberals?
I already know what they are.
You missed the point. By "shut up" I meant quit trying to limit the free speech of ANYBODY else.
When you tell someone to "shut up", you are telling them to limit their free speech. And you're doing it in this case to spare the feelings of people who act exclusively in bad faith.
What is "bad faith speech"? Does that mean speech you disagree with?
Bad faith speech is saying something like "Democrats want to turn us into Venezuela" or "Racism doesn't exist, but reverse racism does" or "cutting taxes will increase economic activity which will increase tax revenues". Take your pick.
When you tell someone to "shut up", you are telling them to limit their free speech. And you're doing it in this case to spare the feelings of people who act exclusively in bad faith.
Bad faith speech is saying something like "Democrats want to turn us into Venezuela" or "Racism doesn't exist, but reverse racism does" or "cutting taxes will increase economic activity which will increase tax revenues". Take your pick.
Bad faith speech is more like someone claiming they have investigative abilities, will take pictures, get tag numbers, etc. and post them on the internet, yet when given detailed directions to where he needs to come, refuses to show up.
When you tell someone to "shut up", you are telling them to limit their free speech. And you're doing it in this case to spare the feelings of people who act exclusively in bad faith.
Bad faith speech is saying something like "Democrats want to turn us into Venezuela" or "Racism doesn't exist, but reverse racism does" or "cutting taxes will increase economic activity which will increase tax revenues". Take your pick.
Bad faith speech is as protected as any other speech and I wouldn't limit it or any other protected speech. Based on your definition of bad faith speech that would include statements such as "Trump supporters are mostly uneducated." We have proven on JPP that is not true, but I defend a person's right to make such bad faith statements.
What you call "bad faith" I would just call lies or far fetched speculation and claims.
Bad faith speech is as protected as any other speech
Right, but "protection" does not mean someone is free from the social consequences of their actions.
That's what you don't seem to get. You seem to want to let anyone say anything and they shouldn't have to pay any social consequences for doing so.
That's bullshit.
I defend a person's right to make such bad faith statements.
And that's why we are where we are today...you're not defending their right to make bad faith statements, you're accommodating bad faith.
You're not entitled to have an "opinion". Entitlements are earned, and opinions are not.
Right, but "protection" does not mean someone is free from the social consequences of their actions.
That's what you don't seem to get. You seem to want to let anyone say anything and they shouldn't have to pay any social consequences for doing so.
That's bullshit.
I don't forget anything. I never said anything about a person not facing "social consequences." I said "bad faith speech" is free speech and cannot be restricted by the government.
Again, you make stuff up based on nothing I ever said. That is bad faith speech on your part. What social consequences shall I impose on you for that speech?
But I think anybody willing to impose "social consequences" on someone because of their speech does not really believe in free speech. If they are willing to inflict any type of negative consequences means we must all adhere to orthodox political views or face negative consequences--it makes us all robots.
I said "bad faith speech" is free speech and cannot be restricted by the government.
Fair enough
Again, you make stuff up based on nothing I ever said. That is bad faith speech on your part. What social consequences shall I impose on you for that speech?
Well, you've already said that people should "shut up" and let bad faith idiots speak nonsense, so you've done your part.
But I think anybody willing to impose "social consequences" on someone because of their speech does not really believe in free speech.
That's hilarious.
If they are willing to inflict any type of negative consequences means we must all adhere to orthodox political views or face negative consequences--it makes us all robots.
If you think that, then you're an idiot.
And that's why we are where we are today...you're not defending their right to make bad faith statements, you're accommodating bad faith.
You're not entitled to have an "opinion". Entitlements are earned, and opinions are not.
I never said I was "entitled" to have an opinion. I have the freedom to have an opinion and express it. You are also accommodating bad faith by making up statements I never said. You try to impose an extremely limited set of opinions a person is able to express--political correctness at its worst.
If they are willing to inflict any type of negative consequences means we must all adhere to orthodox political views or face negative consequences--it makes us all robots.
So don't be mean to Conservatives who speak lies and bullshit because it'll make them feel bad about themselves.
Well, that's kinda the point.
I never said I was "entitled" to have an opinion.
That is precisely what you are saying when you tell people to "shut up" instead of criticizing bad faith.
I have the freedom to have an opinion and express it
No, you actually don't have that freedom.
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say you're entitled to your perception of reality.
And your "Freedom" to say what you think you're entitled to say is limited all the time, not just by the government, but by corporations that provide the medium through which you express your bullshit.
Even this fucking board imposes limits on your freedom to express yourself.
Try again.
You try to impose an extremely limited set of opinions a person is able to express--political correctness at its worst.
You're the one who told people to "shut up" and let Conservatives spread lies, bad faith, and bullshit.
You want people to be free to say whatever they want, and not face any consequences for doing so...on a board that imposes consequences on certain speech.
The irony is not lost on me.
Well, you've already said that people should "shut up" and let bad faith idiots speak nonsense, so you've done your part.
If you think that, then you're an idiot.
Thanks for making my point. Rather than debating issues you turn to angry insults.
I already explained my "shut up" remark meant we should stop trying to oppress free speech of others. If a person wants to wear a MAGA, BLL, or any other type of hat they should not worry about being attacked, shamed, yelled out, or any other type of social consequence. We can be tolerant of the views of others without agreeing with them.
Those who think otherwise are self-righteous bigots making society a less civil place to live. And, they are only giving the other side ammunition to attack their side for their actions.