The most religious candidate is a liberal, change!

Jack said:
Me, personally. I'm all in with Bernie Sanders. He has the 'name recognition'. Has experience in Congress. Has run for President before. Has a grassroots network of supporters. Has a successful Fundraising machine.
... he could die in Office. So ... his VP pick is pretty important. (Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris, Tulsi Gabbard, Elizabeth Warren, ...?)
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I like Bernie.. I just think he's too old.. although he's actually younger than Trump in most ways.
 
Jack said:
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When push comes to shove, I could see American Military Power uniting behind Hillary Clinton. I'm not sure I could say the same thing about American Military Power uniting behind someone that is perceived as a 'Queen'. (I'm just trying to be practical here)
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Pete Buttigieg


32nd Mayor of South Bend
Incumbent
Assumed office
January 1, 2012
Preceded by
Steve Luecke
Personal details
Born
Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg
January 19, 1982 (age 37)
South Bend, Indiana, U.S.
Political party
Democratic
Spouse(s)
Chasten Glezman (m. 2018)
Father
Joseph Buttigieg
Education
Harvard University (BA)
Pembroke College, Oxford (BA)
Website
Government website
Campaign website
Military service
Allegiance
United States
Branch/service
United States Navy
Years of service
2009–2017
Rank
Lieutenant
Unit
United States Navy Reserve
Battles/wars
War in Afghanistan
Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg[1] ( /ˈbuːtədʒədʒ/ BOO-tə-jəj;[2][3] born January 19, 1982) is an American politician and former Naval Intelligence Officer who has served as the mayor of the city of South Bend, Indiana since 2012.
Buttigieg is a graduate of Harvard University and Oxford University, having attended Pembroke College, Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship. From 2007 to 2010 he worked at McKinsey and Company, a management strategy consulting firm.[4] From 2009 to 2017 Buttigieg served as an intelligence officer in the United States Navy Reserve, attaining the rank of lieutenant and deploying for the War in Afghanistan in 2014.
 
His Resume, the way he presents himself, his ideas, ... are all impeccable. I like his 'one year of National Service' to promote 'social cohesion'. I just don't think he can be elected.


kudzu said:
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Pete Buttigieg


32nd Mayor of South Bend
Incumbent
Assumed office
January 1, 2012
Preceded by
Steve Luecke
Personal details
Born
Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg
January 19, 1982 (age 37)
South Bend, Indiana, U.S.
Political party
Democratic
Spouse(s)
Chasten Glezman (m. 2018)
Father
Joseph Buttigieg
Education
Harvard University (BA)
Pembroke College, Oxford (BA)
Website
Government website
Campaign website
Military service
Allegiance
United States
Branch/service
United States Navy
Years of service
2009–2017
Rank
Lieutenant
Unit
United States Navy Reserve
Battles/wars
War in Afghanistan
Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg[1] ( /ˈbuːtədʒədʒ/ BOO-tə-jəj;[2][3] born January 19, 1982) is an American politician and former Naval Intelligence Officer who has served as the mayor of the city of South Bend, Indiana since 2012.
Buttigieg is a graduate of Harvard University and Oxford University, having attended Pembroke College, Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship. From 2007 to 2010 he worked at McKinsey and Company, a management strategy consulting firm.[4] From 2009 to 2017 Buttigieg served as an intelligence officer in the United States Navy Reserve, attaining the rank of lieutenant and deploying for the War in Afghanistan in 2014.
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Jarod said:
Wearing a seatbelt makes you more able to avoid an accident with a different person for a longer period of time. Not Wearing a helmet should not be illegal
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??? A seat-belt won't make you mods able to avoid an accident.........

If someone wants their brains on the road, that is on them, my issue is having to pay for them............. If they are hurt & have no insurance you & I pick up the tab.. If they have a helmet that will often lessen the severity & costs.........
 
Jarod said:
It should not be illegal. Not the governments business.
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That is not a sufficient answer. The point is the government MAKES it its business to tell people what they can or cannot do with their bodies. So from a legal standpoint there is precedent is there not counselor?
 
Jarod said:
Wearing a seatbelt makes you more able to avoid an accident with a different person for a longer period of time. Not Wearing a helmet should not be illegal
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I have seen no data that wearing a seatbelt helps avoid accidents. Can you cite evidence of your claim counselor?

Whether you think wearing a helmet should be illegal or not is irrelevant to my point counselor. My point is that the government has set many precedents on what people can and cannot do with their bodies which is the entire basis of your argument for allowing a woman to murder her baby. My point is that the government already regulates our bodies. Abortion is no different. What you think is irrelevant to the argument
 
Teflon Don said:
So the day that the baby goes from 2nd to 3rd trimester it is immediately "viable" and worthy of defending against murder and not a minute before?
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The line has to be drawn somewhere, that’s where I draw it.

Is using a rubber murder, that sperm is human and had potential to become a baby.
 
Teflon Don said:
That is not a sufficient answer. The point is the government MAKES it its business to tell people what they can or cannot do with their bodies. So from a legal standpoint there is precedent is there not counselor?
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I agree there is precedent.
 
Jarod said:
The line has to be drawn somewhere, that’s where I draw it.

Is using a rubber murder, that sperm is human and had potential to become a baby.
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Your line is arbitrary and I understand your inability to articulate it.

No using a rubber is not murder. The sperm is only half of the equation. So this notion that stopping it from interacting with an ovum constitutes murder is ludicrous on its face. Even you know it is a fallacious argument. You should stop peddling it. Only weak minded people try to peddle it. Do you want to be a weak minded person?
 
Jarod said:
Is using a rubber murder, that sperm is human and had potential to become a baby.
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Teflon Don said:
Your line is arbitrary and I understand your inability to articulate it.

No using a rubber is not murder. The sperm is only half of the equation. So this notion that stopping it from interacting with an ovum constitutes murder is ludicrous on its face. Even you know it is a fallacious argument. You should stop peddling it. Only weak minded people try to peddle it. Do you want to be a weak minded person?
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Your line is just as arbitrary.
 
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