why cant we agree on what is racism?

Sailor said:
He was just not talking about PA Christie. Seems though you agree with his racism and divisiveness.
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Nobody has been able to give examples of Obama's racism and divisiveness and I've asked for them before. The usual response is stuff like "he said if he had a son, he'd look like Trayvon" or "he defended Henry Gates after the cops arrested him for trying to get into his own house", or "he criticized the Ferguson cops over Michael Brown's death."

Perhaps you can give some examples of Obama's "racism and divisiveness."
 
christiefan915 said:
Nobody has been able to give examples of Obama's racism and divisiveness and I've asked for them before. The usual response is stuff like "he said if he had a son, he'd look like Trayvon" or "he defended Henry Gates after the cops arrested him for trying to get into his own house", or "he criticized the Ferguson cops over Michael Brown's death."

Perhaps you can give some examples of Obama's "racism and divisiveness."
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Plenty of valid examples have been given. You're the one refusing to accept them as valid.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
AWWWWWWWW, POOR Christie!!

She has to defend a liberal lying racist, only because she's a liberal and doesn't give a flying fuck that Desh is a lying racist.
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TSK-TSK-TSK. :palm:

Christiecunt is still stalking me over the fact that she supports and defends, Desh, who is a self proclaimed racist.

:facepalm:
 
evince said:
who should be allowed to determine what is an incident of racism?


lets examine some current incidents and look at WHO calls it racism and who says its not an example of racism.



can you republicans give us an example of a current event you agree had elements of racism in it
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Obviously, the problem here is that no one can agree because liberals call anything and everything racism. And when everything becomes racism, no one takes the charge seriously anymore.

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A small sampling of who the left has smeared as racist at this point:

"Nancy Pelosi: The speaker was accused by Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of being “disrespectful” towards “newly elected women of color” in Congress, presumably referring to herself and other members of “the squad,” including fellow freshman Reps. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts. (RELATED: Will Nancy Pelosi Budge On Impeachment?)
Democratic presidential candidates former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders speak during the second night of the first Democratic presidential debate on June 27, 2019 in Miami, Florida. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

Democratic presidential candidates former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders speak during the second night of the first Democratic presidential debate on June 27, 2019 in Miami, Florida. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

Joe Biden: The former vice president was accused of racial insensitivity by fellow presidential candidate and California Sen. Kamala Harris during the first Democratic debate last month. Biden came under fire from the left for his 1970’s opposition to forced school busing, something opposed by 86% of the American public at the time. (RELATED: Kamala Harris Backtracks On Busing After Hammering Biden On The Issue)

Blue Dog Democrats: Ocasio-Cortez’s chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti implied that moderate Democrats in the House of Representatives were racist for demanding a vote on a bipartisan border bill that previously passed the Senate 84-8. Chakrabarti compared the group of moderate Democrats commonly known as “Blue Dogs” to the segregationist southern Democrats of the 20th century. The bill in question allocated $4.5 billion to deal with the border crisis, and ultimately passed the House and was signed by Trump after Pelosi relented to the moderates’ demands.

Mitt Romney: During the 2012 presidential election, the Republican Presidential nominee was blitzed with headlines such as “Mitt Romney and the RNC: Stoking The Racial Politics Of Yesteryear.” Then-DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz accused Romney of employing racist dog whistles when the now-Utah senator discussed welfare reform.

John McCain: The late Arizona senator is now widely revered by the left, but was consistently accused of racism after he became the Republican presidential nominee in 2008. At the time, McCain faced accusations of “inciting hate and hate speech,” and siding with “religious and political extremists,” among other accusations. Democratic Georgia Rep. John Lewis even compared McCain to former Democratic Alabama Gov. George Wallace, a staunch segregationist in the 1960’s and 70’s.

John Roberts: The Chief Justice faced down accusations of racism after he wrote a 5-4 opinion declaring that partisan gerrymandering was outside the Supreme Court’s purview. The website “Above The Law” accused the high court of attempting to “lock in white minority rule,” and compared the ruling to the court’s infamous “Dred Scott” decision. (RELATED: Chief Justice Roberts Has Begun To Make Some Conservatives Nervous)

George Will: The conservative-leaning “Never Trump” columnist recently faced protests ahead of a commencement speech at Princeton. The activist organization Princeton IX Now referred to Will as a “sexual assault denier, a climate change disavower, and a racism dismisser.”
Activist Candace Owens addresses the 148th National Rifle Association (NRA) annual meeting in Indianapolis, Indiana, U.S., April 26, 2019. REUTERS/Lucas Jackson

Activist Candace Owens addresses the 148th National Rifle Association (NRA) annual meeting in Indianapolis, Indiana, U.S., April 26, 2019. REUTERS/Lucas Jackson

Candace Owens: A black conservative activist, Owens has repeatedly been accused of enabling racism. The Root has called Owens “Racist white America’s black friend” over her testimony at a House of Representatives hearing earlier this year on white nationalism. Following the hearing, Newsweek accused Owens of defending white nationalism.

Ben Shapiro: The conservative commentator has been repeatedly attacked online by white nationalists, with the Anti-Defamation League reporting that Shapiro was the top target of the racist alt-right group in 2016. Still, The Economist called referred to Shapiro as “the alt-right sage without the rage” in a profile earlier this year.

Jordan Peterson: A Canadian professor and popular lecturer, Peterson has been the subject of angry protests on college campuses across the country. Earlier this year, the University of Cambridge rescinded a visiting fellowship to Peterson following intense backlash from students and faculty. Peterson told the Daily Caller at the time that he believed the university was engaging in “cheap, political posturing.”

ICE Analyst: ICE analyst and U.S. Marine veteran Justin Gaertner was falsely accused by a fact checker at The New Yorker last year of having a Nazi tattoo on his elbow. ICE later clarified that Gaertner’s tattoo was actually a “symbol for his platoon while he fought in Afghanistan.” The fact checker later resigned.

Anti-MS-13 Republicans: Paul Waldman of The Week wrote last year that “MS-13 is Republicans’ New Willie Horton,” accusing Republican politicians of using the international criminal gang for racist fear-mongering. The piece specifically accused Trump of racism for referring to violent gang members as “animals,” a term Democrats have since seized on to call the president a racist.

Zina Bash: The former Trump administration official and clerk for now-Justice Brett Kavanaugh was accused by liberal conspiracy theorists of making a white nationalist symbol when she flashed an “OK” sign at Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearing. Bash is of Mexican and Jewish descent and her grandparents were holocaust survivors.

Bret Weinstein: The left-leaning college professor lost his job at Evergreen State College after he objected to a “Day of Absence,” in which white students were expected to leave campus for a day. Weinstein testified last year at a House of Representatives hearing on free speech, and said that he believed many college campuses had transformed into cults. (RELATED: Evergreen State Police Chief Resigns: ‘We Should Have Rifles’)

Miss Michigan: 20-year-old Kathy Zhu was stripped of her Miss Michigan title after allegedly violating the “good character” requirement of Miss World America. The organization cited a 2017 tweet from Zhu, where she asked “Did you know the majority of black deaths are caused by other blacks?” The Chinese-American former pageant contestant is a staunch Trump supporter, and has amassed a large social media following under the nickname “political Kathy.”

Chris Pratt: The popular actor and outspoken Christian was recently attacked by Yahoo News for wearing a Gadsden flag T-shirt, which the news outlet initially described as racist, before correcting its headline. The original headline was titled: “Chris Pratt Criticized for White Supremacist T-Shirt.”

Random Chipotle Employee: A Chipotle restaurant in St. Paul fired a manager after she refused to serve a group of black men in a video that went viral last year. However, it was later discovered that the men had a history of “dining and dashing” and bragging about their actions on Twitter. The manager was later offered her job back."
 
christiefan915 said:
Try again.

I said "He (trump) needs to represent ALL the people in the country, not just those who kiss up to him."


You said "Like Obama did? LMAO... President 'I won, so I get what I want' Obama? That one?"

I said "When did Obama ever talk about people he dislikes like trump does? I must have missed all those pressers and tweets."

So again, when did Obama ever treat his detractors with the same contempt and ugliness that trump shows for his detractors?
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Again you idiot... you are creating a straw man. I never stated Obama said things exactly like Trump. I stated he was not representing 'ALL Americans'. How fucking hard is it for you to grasp that?
 
christiefan915 said:
You're moving the goalposts. I said trump has contempt for people who disagree with him and you're changing it to trump stating that all people of one race must think alike, etc.

trump pulls this crap all the time. He criticizes liberals, progressives and Democrats as a group, and he singles out the particular ones he despises for special attention. I have never seen Obama do that.

We're 280 posts in and cons still haven't responded to the topic of the OP; it's just the usual dog pile on evince.
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Because you don't want to see. There are democrats that do it as well. "Deplorables" "Cling to guns and religion" ... or just add in any time Obama talked about 'White people'
 
evince said:
who should be allowed to determine what is an incident of racism?
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Not a who, a what... That 'what' is Logic itself.

In formal logic, racism is a specific form of the compositional error fallacy, a form involving people as the class and a genetic trait as the property. A compositional error fallacy occurs whenever elements of a class are improperly extended across the entire class.

evince said:
lets examine some current incidents and look at WHO calls it racism and who says its not an example of racism.
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It doesn't matter who calls it what... Formal logic defines what racism is...

evince said:
can you republicans give us an example of a current event you agree had elements of racism in it
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You're the one crying "racism!!!!", so YOU need to provide the examples of racism. The burden of proof is YOURS.
 
countryboy said:
Its exactly what she meant. What else does "We don’t need black faces that don’t want to be a black voice" mean? What, she decides what a "black voice" is? Who the fuck appointed her as the spokesperson for all black people?
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Precisely this!

She is a prime example of racism.
 
gfm7175 said:
Precisely this!

She is a prime example of racism.
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It doesn't get any more racist than that. Can you imagine the reaction from Democrats, if a republican Congress person said, "we don't need any more white faces, that don't want to be a white voice"? You would need ear plugs to avoid permanent hearing loss.
 
Superfreak said:
Stop sucking Putin's balls Desh. Stop being racist too.
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this is what you have been reduced to after all these years?


dude

you are pathetic



why do black voters ( and other voters of color) hate the republican party and vote for the Democratic party in VAST numbers?



the only NON racist answer is the republican party is racist


give me YOUR claim about it and I will show you just how fucking racist you are
 
evince said:
this is what you have been reduced to after all these years?


dude

you are pathetic



why do black voters ( and other voters of color) hate the republican party and vote for the Democratic party in VAST numbers?



the only NON racist answer is the republican party is racist


give me YOUR claim about it and I will show you just how fucking racist you are
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LMAO... PURE IRONY.
 
My opinion. White people are the last people who need to be trying to define racism.

Ask the people who are being effected by racism.

You can’t ask the abuser to define his own abuse.
 
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