Mass Shooting Dayton Ohio

moon said:
Sorry- Wiki much preferred to you. The AK47 is an assault rifle and is designed to be fully automatic. The fact that you can't buy them as fully-automatic is neither here nor there.

You should also realise that Wiki shines BECAUSE it can be edited by accredited editors. They take out the guff and replace it with reality. Rogue editors- liars for short- don't last long.
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AK47s do no more damage than handguns. Fact.

Wiki is crap and not valid because anyone can edit it. I'd never use it as a source unless I wanted to be laughed at. :palm:
 
countryboy said:
No, it's your hate, bigotry, and racism. Again, you sick fucks can't even let the bodies cool.
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Wouldn't surprise me if a leftist nut either committed it or was behind it. Their history of anger and violence precedes them.

With them, the ends justifies the means which is "get bad orange man". They are crazy.
 
Life is Golden said:
Fully automatic weapons are not sold and have been illegal, always.

Please stop buying into the lies and hoaxes from the lunatic fringe. AK47s are not assault rifles, are not fully automatic and AR does not stand for assault rifle, it stands for Armalite, a manufacterer. The only way you will take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens is by changing the 2nd Amendment.

Good luck with that.
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Looks like Jade is groaning over you correcting her and Owl's errors. :palm:
 
Jade Dragon said:
Sounds like you need to take your own advice. You're alreading parroting the idea of taking guns away. Taking guns off the market is not taking them from you. These are called assault weapons because of the array of damage done. These guns were already banned once making the NRA delusions all the more obvious. They didn't change the second amendment to do that but rightists and the NRA are changing it to meet their desires. Even if these people were armed themselves it wouldn't have stopped this. These types of weapons are made for war and so is the body armor. What's the NRA's solution? Is it till everyone is carrying around a big assault rifle?
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Life is Golden said:
Wouldn't surprise me if a leftist nut either committed it or was behind it. Their history of anger and violence precedes them.

With them, the ends justifies the means which is "get bad orange man". They are crazy.
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Yep, just like the left focusing on the Texas shooter's alleged support for Trump, while ignoring his many left wing positions. Decrying the evil corporations, lamenting climate change, favors a universal basic income. All radical leftist lunatic positions.
 
midcan5 said:
Gun control won't work as killers are mentally insecure and we are filled with weapons of mass destruction. Making automatic weapons illegal and against the law could help, then shootings would be just normal America. One shot here, one there no biggie right? Welcome to America and good luck staying alive. Japan or England anyone?

Resentment is both individual and an emotional trait psychopaths and others play to win or convince. I am working on a thread on hate and another resentful white man murders others because they are others and he sees them as less than him and an incursion into what should be his alone. Evil is so obvious in America today, it hide under the covers for a while, but a 'black' president's election, and a now psychopathic president has pulled the covers back. To be fair this happened before Trump, he is only part of the hidden made visible.


"The shooter is almost always male. Of the past 129 mass shootings in the United States, all but three have been men. The shooter is socially alienated, and he can’t get laid. Every time you scratch the surface of the latest mass killing, in a movie theatre, a school, the streets of Paris or an abortion clinic, you find the weaponised loser. From Jihadi John of ISIS to Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris at Columbine, these men are invariably stuck in the emotional life of an adolescent. They always struggle with self-esteem – especially regarding women – and sometimes they give up entirely on the possibility of amorous fulfilment. There are different levels of tactical coordination, different ostensible grievances and different access to firearms, but the psyche beneath is invariably the same."

https://aeon.co/essays/humiliation-and-rage-how-toxic-masculinity-fuels-mass-shootings


"From New Zealand to Pittsburgh to a synagogue in Poway, Calif., aggrieved white men over the last several months have turned to mass murder in service of hatred against immigrants, Jews and others they perceive as threats to the white race."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/03/us/patrick-crusius-el-paso-shooter-manifesto.html


'Why some white supremacists eventually give up on hate.'

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...why-and-how-racist-extremists-can-change.html


"The main hypothesis concerning group-think is this: The more amiability and esprit de corps among the members of the in-group of policy makers the greater the danger that independent thinking will be replaced by group-think, which is likely to result in irrational and dehumanizing actions directed at out-groups." from 'Sanctions for Evil;' Sanford and Comstock, 1971
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AUTOMATIC WEAPONS are already against the law, unless someone has the money and inclination to jump through all the existing requirements.

But I'm willing to read when was one used, within the past 10 years or so.
 
Life is Golden said:
AK47s are not military class, they are semi-automatic, firing one shot at a time. That claim is just another myth, advanced by the gun grabbers.

Taking guns away from law abiding citizens will not stop crimes or mass shootings. Nor am I willing to give mine up for such absurdity. The 2nd protects all others.
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:lolup:

The stupidly absurd notion that possession of guns protects all other rights. Who told you that, halfwit? The NRA?

Fucking moron. :rofl2:
 
countryboy said:
No, it's your hate, bigotry, and racism. Again, you sick fucks can't even let the bodies cool.
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Yeah let's have prayers and thoughts. The bodies never cool. 250 mass shootings this year. 2 within 24 hours. You disgusting gun lovers never want to deal with the problem. You just use Trumpian /NRA deflection. They figured out long ago that saying "lets not deal with the causes and make laws to fix things until we have had a cooling-off period" The truth is that is the best time. But waiting is just not dealing at all, just kicking the problem down the road.
All gun-lovers do is try and protect their guns. They are not spending that time thinking about the dead and injured. They are just finding ways to marshall gun nuts to develop a positive message for guns. That gives the NRA bought politicians time to write a message. Then they appear in front of the people declaring their sadness, but not so sad that they will actually do anything.
 
Gonzomin said:
Yeah let's have prayers and thoughts. The bodies never cool. 250 mass shootings this year. 2 within 24 hours. You disgusting gun lovers never want to deal with the problem. You just use Trumpian /NRA deflection. They figured out long ago that saying "lets not deal with the causes and make laws to fix things until we have had a cooling-off period" The truth is that is the best time. But waiting is just not dealing at all, just kicking the problem down the road.
All gun-lovers do is try and protect their guns. They are not spending that time thinking about the dead and injured. They are just finding ways to marshall gun nuts to develop a positive message for guns. That gives the NRA bought politicians time to write a message. Then they appear in front of the people declaring their sadness, but not so sad that they will actually do anything.
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Just change your complaint and numbers to reflect those killed and injured by cars and just maybe you'll understand that it's not the ITEM; but the person.
 
I am soooo sick of politicians AND 'experts in the field' jumping on the "the shooter was mentally ill, if you see someone with a problem or read a disturbing post on any social media platform REPORT IT TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIS IMMEDIATELY!"


Prevalence of Mental Illness in the US

Approximately 1 in 5 adults in the U.S. (46.6 million) experiences mental illness in a given year.1
Approximately 1 in 25 adults in the U.S. (11.2 million) experiences a serious mental illness in a given year that substantially interferes with or limits one or more major life activities.2
Approximately 1 in 5 youth aged 13–18 (21.4%) experiences a severe mental disorder at some point during their life. For children aged 8–15, the estimate is 13%.3
1.1% of adults in the U.S. live with schizophrenia.4
2.6% of adults in the U.S. live with bipolar disorder.5
6.9% of adults in the U.S.—16 million—had at least one major depressive episode in the past year.6
18.1% of adults in the U.S. experienced an anxiety disorder such as posttraumatic stress disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder and specific phobias.7
Among the 20.2 million adults in the U.S. who experienced a substance use disorder, 50.5%—10.2 million adults—had a co-occurring mental illness.8


so that's total bullshit, all good citizens should monitor and track millions and millions of their fellow citizens and stop this carnage in its tracks?

the only recourse is to stop selling assault rifles altogether (the shooter's weapon of choice every time), pass legislation requiring existing assault rifles be registered with federal authorities, ban high capacity magazines, mark and trace bullets with microscopic codes - we're going backwards on this one, the Gun Control Act of 1968 required all retailers to log ammunition sales and prohibited all mail-order purchases. (The restrictions were lifted two decades later by President Reagan’s Firearms Owners Protection Act.)

https://www.rand.org/blog/2016/09/tracing-firearms-and-ammunition.html

I don't see the country passing laws to do any of that until we have a Democratic president and Congress...….and impeach Kavanaugh to get new laws through the SCOTUS
 
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