George Zimmerman case ( state used phony witness) proceeding in Florida

[BattleofHodow]

Fist fights on the playground? Fist fights with a strange hoodlem who ambushed you in the dark, a hoodlum who outclassed you? If the second case, and you didn't shoot the negger, it's only because you didn't have a gun.



Pepper spray might work to deter a masher, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.

Why don't you tell blacks to stop attacking people?

Whites attack people too.

Actually, by a Black ladies own words, my very White Catholic hometown Putnam Lake, NY had more fist-fights than Brooklyn, Newark & Hartford.

But, then again White Catholics are tough, unlike White Protestant puxxies.

 

[Walt]

Why was Zimmerman not convicted? Was it a vast, right wing conspiracy?

There are two key things that every juror said were important to them, but turned out to be completely wrong. First, they all ask why Martin was out very late at night. It all happened at 7:00 in the evening, a completely reasonable time for a 17 year old to walk to a convenience store for a snack during the halftime of a game. Second, they all say they believe Zimmerman's testimony. Zimmerman did not testify.

Zimmerman's claims do not match the physical evidence, and the other witness statements. They do not even match common sense. He could not be put on the stand, because his claims would fall apart on the stand. So his claims were allowed without cross examination. That was a terrible step.

I think there is an urge to believe it is only the evil "others" that commit murder, and Zimmerman was included in the "us" by the police, jury, and prosecutors.

 

[Walt]

My question for everyone is would they support Martin killing Zimmerman? Clearly, Martin's life was in great danger from Zimmerman. We know that because Zimmerman actually killed Martin. So, wouldn't it have been self defense if Martin had killed Zimmerman?

The best outcome would have been Zimmerman just allowing Martin to get home and watch the remainder of the game. The second best outcome would be if Zimmerman had allowed the police to take care of it, and they had let Martin get home and watch the remainder of the game.

But if we are going to allow this to be a fight to the death, then shouldn't Martin have had the right to not be convicted of a crime if he had been able to survive?

 

[Walt]

Lets talk about Zimmerman a bit.

Several months before, he had assaulted a police officer. He said at the time he did not know the plain clothes officer was a police officer, but that points to a problem not figuring things out before turning to violence.

He goes up and down severely and quickly in muscle mass. That is not possible that quickly without using (and going off) massive amounts of steroids. He has repeatedly refused any drug tests, for obvious reasons. That helps explain attacking a police officer, and the numerous other violent attacks of his.

The night before, Zimmerman attacked his wife. His wife was the one who earned all the money, and his roid rage was not OK with that. She fled to her parents house, and he went "out on patrol" at night.

Zimmerman was extremely paranoid when he went "out on patrol", and was known to threaten people he does not like. For instance, he threatened a 12 year old child for always walking down the street at 3:30 pm... The kid was returning from school.

Zimmerman has since the incident attacked several people. He attacked his wife a few times, and her family twice. He has threatened police with guns on at least two times. He goes back and forth from steroid use to not steroid use and it is very dangerous.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Lets talk about Zimmerman a bit.

Several months before, he had assaulted a police officer. He said at the time he did not know the plain clothes officer was a police officer, but that points to a problem not figuring things out before turning to violence.

He goes up and down severely and quickly in muscle mass. That is not possible that quickly without using (and going off) massive amounts of steroids. He has repeatedly refused any drug tests, for obvious reasons. That helps explain attacking a police officer, and the numerous other violent attacks of his.

The night before, Zimmerman attacked his wife. His wife was the one who earned all the money, and his roid rage was not OK with that. She fled to her parents house, and he went "out on patrol" at night.

Zimmerman was extremely paranoid when he went "out on patrol", and was known to threaten people he does not like. For instance, he threatened a 12 year old child for always walking down the street at 3:30 pm... The kid was returning from school.

Zimmerman has since the incident attacked several people. He attacked his wife a few times, and her family twice. He has threatened police with guns on at least two times. He goes back and forth from steroid use to not steroid use and it is very dangerous.

None of which deprives him of his right to self-defense. At worst, it should take his carry permit.

 

[Bobb]

Whites attack people too.

Then why don't you tell people to stop commiting crimes, instead of whining like the racist bitch you are when a white guy defends himself when neggers attack?

 

[Bobb]

My question for everyone is would they support Martin killing Zimmerman?

I bet even your mom calls you a moron. The negger Trayvon was the attacker. Only the victim of an attacker gets to kill in self-defense.

The best outcome would have been Zimmerman just allowing Martin to get home and watch the remainder of the game.

You ignorant piece of racist sht, it wasn't the negger Travyon's plan to go home, but to attack Zimmerman.

The second best outcome would be if Zimmerman had allowed the police to take care of it,

You ignorant piece of racist shit, it was Zimmerman's plan to allow the police to take care of it. But, the negger Trayvon wasn't going home nor waiting for the police. Indeed, you are a fcking moron.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

He should still face charges for ignoring not to follow no matter the rest of what did or did not happen.

Follow what??

A dispatcher's suggestion??

 

[Nomad]

First, Zimmerman was acquitted.

Second, it's the most well know and clearest case of self-defense I've seen. The case would never have gone to trial if the President of the United States hadn't become personally involved. It ruined Zimmerman's life...not that he had much of one to begin with.

IMO, there were two dumbasses running around in the dark that night; one a wannabe cop and the other a wannabe gangsta. The wannabe gangsta just happened to jump the wrong person and got shot for it. It was a righteous shooting.

That's the only part of what you said that I totally disagree with.

Obama's comments were minimal and the case was already well on its way to court by the time he appealed for calm and empathized with a mother and father who'd lost their son.

But you're right that Zimmerman was well within his rights to use lethal force to defend himself.

 

[Walt]

None of which deprives him of his right to self-defense. At worst, it should take his carry permit.

I discovered something recently. It turns out that being a bank robber, and a crystal meth head does not always mean that Alt Right losers lose their carry permit. Arpaio allowed WHITE violent criminals to get pardons by working for his racist posses. Neo-Nazi Brewer pardoned thousands of violent criminals so they could buy guns again... Because there is nothing that a meth head needs more than a gun, and meth of course.

 

[Walt]

You ignorant piece of racist sht, it wasn't the negger Travyon's plan to go home, but to attack Zimmerman.

OK, Martin was watching the All Star Game, which was very important to him. During the halftime, he ran over to the convenience store, and bought some candy, or in your world, he decided to attack someone he did not even know existed?

You ignorant piece of racist shit, it was Zimmerman's plan to allow the police to take care of it.

If that had been true, Zimmerman would have stopped following Martin. He would not have gotten out of his car. He wouldn't have attacked Martin.

 

[Walt]

Follow what?? A dispatcher's suggestion??

When did we get to the point that "don't attack some random kid" just became a suggestion?

 

[Walt]

If Martin had a gun, would he be well within his rights to defend himself by killing Zimmerman?

Remember, we know that Zimmerman was going to kill Martin, so this question should be a lot easier to answer than if it had actually happened.

 

[TTQ64]

Because I understand law & order, and civilization.

Hicks do not.

A simple spray of pepper spray would have deterred Trayvon.

A simple spray of pepper spray would have deterred Zimmerman he was following a kid.

 

[Nomad]

Because, I've been in a lot of fist-fights, and never thought twice about calling the cops, much less shooting someone.

While, it maybe true that 9 times out of 10 they started the fist fight with me.

There is that 1 time out of 10 where they were so nasty, that they kind of deserved it.

If Zimmerman couldn't fight, pepper spray, tasers, and bear spray would work just as good.

So then what you're saying is that Zimmerman should have politely asked Trayvon to get off of his back and stop slamming his head onto the sidewalk, while he ran back to his car to get his pepper spray?

Suggestion: If you aren't thoroughly, 100% familiar with the facts and details of a case, you shouldn't make uninformed comments about it. Trayvon came up on Zimmerman out of the darkness, verbally confronted him about following him, then without warning, launched into a sudden physical attack, knocking Zimmerman down, getting on top of him then alternately beat Zimmerman on the head with his fists and pounded Zimmerman's head onto the concrete sidewalk.


Exactly when was he supposed to run and get pepper spray?

 

[Nomad]

A simple spray of pepper spray would have deterred Zimmerman he was following a kid.

Simply going home instead of lying in wait to attack Zimmerman would have resulted in Trayvon staying alive that night.

 

[Nomad]

If Martin had a gun, would he be well within his rights to defend himself by killing Zimmerman?

Remember, we know that Zimmerman was going to kill Martin, so this question should be a lot easier to answer than if it had actually happened.

Quit lying like a Trumptard.

Martin jumped on Zmmerman and began beating him.

That gave Zim the legal right to shoot him.

Zim never attacked Martin, so Martin would have no legal right to shoot.

Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

I can't believe people are still arguing about this.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Cops told Georgie he didn't have to continue following Martin. He didn't listen. Then when asked for location, Georgie suddenly becomes confused and can't get his bearings.....in an area that he constantly patrolled for months previously.

Georgie said that Martin was hiding behind a bush, jumped out and attacked him.....a newsman went to the scene, where there was no "bush" but a small shrub that was incapable of "hiding" anyone. Also, a local street lamp would have given adequate illumination to spot anyone trying to lay in wait.

As for the alleged attack.....dead men tell no tales.

But hey, let's ignore Georgie's dad having connections to local law enforcement and judicial. Or Georgie's little brush ups with the law in the after. Right wing-nuts are will keep bleating any and all stuff like the OP to convince themselves and try to convince others that Martin was guilty as Georgie said...treating a lawsuit like it's a done deal. Pathetic.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

I discovered something recently. It turns out that being a bank robber, and a crystal meth head does not always mean that Alt Right losers lose their carry permit. Arpaio allowed WHITE violent criminals to get pardons by working for his racist posses. Neo-Nazi Brewer pardoned thousands of violent criminals so they could buy guns again... Because there is nothing that a meth head needs more than a gun, and meth of course.

I don't believe that story but it's not a bad idea. The 2a means all adult non-incarcerated citizens should be allowed to have guns. Should convicted murderers be allowed to have guns if they get out of prison? Sure.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

A simple spray of pepper spray would have deterred Zimmerman he was following a kid.

For all zimbo knows, sambo has a gun. So much for your pepper spray idea.

I like pepper spray but a gun is better.