Crowds flock to reopened Jacksonville beaches as Florida hits record coronavirus case

[PoliTalker]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

Still would mean higher traffic in stores for beer, ice and suntan lotion. Can't go back to "business as usual" without expecting a lot more human interactions. Not every store owner can afford masks and Plexiglas shields for their workers. Infections will increase. To what, nobody knows....at least for another few weeks.

I don't think they are allowing coolers on the beach. Nor blankets and sunbathing. It's just for recreation. Walking, biking and swimming. Limited hours. Beach closed midday. Just mornings and evenings allowed.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

I don't think they are allowing coolers on the beach. Nor blankets and sunbathing. It's just for recreation. Walking, biking and swimming. Limited hours. Beach closed midday. Just mornings and evenings allowed.

Thanks for the update. IMHO, it's only a few weeks before they'r wide open...until they're not.

 

[Arks&sparka]

Hello Arks&sparka,



We can lay the blame for housing becoming unaffordable to the working masses on the lack of proper government oversight. This is caused not by the weak and powerless, but by those who hold power in the capitalist empires. What they want goes and what the people want blows.

It's caused by printing money. And the government giving it away.

Because the rich and powerful have placed so many barriers in the path of the poor, and prevented them from achieving wealth. Redlining and voter suppression would be prime examples.

that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. People are literally walking around with the library of Congress in their pocket. The poor have never had access to more information in the entire history of the universe.

People are economically illiterate because of willful blindness due to agenda. Like flat earthers.

I have a hard time believing you think something so incredibly ridiculous

It doesn't really matter where it came from, turning on one another will not solve it. We have to have our basic priorities straight. Life itself is more important than fortunes.

The idea that you think it's Jeff bezos is the type of person that's going to be evicted is an astonishing lack of awareness. It's not the fortunes that are going to be lost, it's the working classes livelihood.

It must be accepted that there is no getting out of this with a strong economy. It is going to be devastating; and then we will have to slowly pick up the pieces.

Yeah with government interference it's going to be worse for longer.

 

[Arks&sparka]

Hello Arks&sparka,



We agree on that, but we disagree on the definition of worse.

No you disagree on common usage.

Most think it is worse if more people die. And then there are those who are more worried about their fortunes.

The idea that people out of work getting their homes foreclosed on and their careers upended are the holders of Fortune is devistating hilarious.

Many of them were not very well prepared financially, didn't have reserves built up, and are uncomfortable with using the power of government to step in to help in bad economic times. They are the minority.

Yeah that's how dictatorships start when people have been broken and are easily manipulated. You don't vote in the Nazi party because the value of the Deutsch Mark is strong.

You clearly don't know history.

 

[Arks&sparka]

Hello Arks&sparka,



That cut funding for malaria and AIDS programs in Africa. Very irresponsible decision.

No that's a good idea. Wasting money in Africa for decades has resulted in the need to waste more money.

It will end up being a lot more than that. And we totally had to do it. It was bipartisan and unanimous to do it.

Yeah to hell with everyone younger than you if they wanted to live in economic prosperity they should have been born earlier.

If we didn't do it the economy would totally crater and there would be a depression.

unless we didn't do this stupid shutdown nonsense. we should have quarantined to the people that are at risk not the people who earned the money.

There comes a time when taxes have already been cut too much. We already passed that point before GWB was elected.

yes spending also has to be cut.

Like Bill Clinton did.

will the legislature during Clinton's term. Presidents do not write budgets, that's Congress.

No, actually they do not. But Republicans are far worse at it than Democrats.

Well not when the Congress doesn't let them.

 

[Arks&sparka]

Hello Arks&sparka,



The selfishness is on the part of the president who only thinks of himself.

yeah because the presidents are elected. Lol

BS. The powerful who denied this instead of taking proactive action have made it far worse than it needed to be. Too bad we didn't approach it like Taiwan or South Korea did.

yeah only we would throw out the Constitution and just do what other countries do. America we don't need that writes those are overrated.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Hello Dutch Uncle,



Ouch. Hard to say how bad it will go for us until it is all said and done. We have entered a rough year at least and it is going to get worse before it gets better.

Yup...and there is another fly in the ointment that will more than likely prove to be a very large fly. We were much more used to discomfort and hard-times back in the early 20th century...we were harder. We've gotten soft...and more bothered by any inconvenience these days. We are not going to take the distress with the aplomb of that earlier age.

Bad enough this is happening with an incompetent moron at the helm of the ship of state...

...but to be happening with an incompetent moron at the helm who considers himself to be a better strategist than Admirals Nimitz, Halsey and Yamamoto combined is a stab in the back to humanity.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Arks&sparka,

It's caused by printing money. And the government giving it away.

Lowering taxes in a good economy was irresponsible.

that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. People are literally walking around with the library of Congress in their pocket. The poor have never had access to more information in the entire history of the universe.

People are economically illiterate because of willful blindness due to agenda. Like flat earthers.

It is pointless to blame the poor for their own condition. They are born into destitution, have no good character examples to be found in parents who do not know how to be successful themselves. They didn't ask to be born into that life, and do not believe they have opportunity available to them, so they do not seek it.

Yeah with government interference it's going to be worse for longer.

If government did nothing it would be far worse. There would be a depression.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Arks&sparka,

Yeah to hell with everyone younger than you if they wanted to live in economic prosperity they should have been born earlier. unless we didn't do this stupid shutdown nonsense. we should have quarantined to the people that are at risk not the people who earned the money.

We will get through this. The good economy will return in time.

yes spending also has to be cut.

Cutting spending hurts the economy. Many incomes depend on government spending.

 

[Earl]

Hello Arks&sparka,



Lowering taxes in a good economy was irresponsible.



It is pointless to blame the poor for their own condition. They are born into destitution, have no good character examples to be found in parents who do not know how to be successful themselves. They didn't ask to be born into that life, and do not believe they have opportunity available to them, so they do not seek it.



If government did nothing it would be far worse. There would be a depression.

Of course the poor are responsible for their condition. Everyone who is not physically or mentally impaired is responsible for their condition. Many of those who are impaired succeed in life.

This is the far left mantra,. you have no chance to succeed, you have no opportunities, you are doomed unless the government supports you for the rest of your life.

Horse mierda.

 

[Micawber]

Yeah that's how dictatorships start when people have been broken and are easily manipulated. You don't vote in the Nazi party because the value of the Deutsch Mark is strong.

You clearly don't know history.

We voted in Trump on a strong dollar. I consider him a wannabee dictator. His Branch Covidians would gladly give him Hitler power.

We'll fix that in November, forever.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Of course the poor are responsible for their condition. Everyone who is not physically or mentally impaired is responsible for their condition. Many of those who are impaired succeed in life.

This is the far left mantra,. you have no chance to succeed, you have no opportunities, you are doomed unless the government supports you for the rest of your life.

Horse mierda.

Exactly. Just like those businesses that failed during the Recession and now; they should have been better prepared. Why the fuck is Trump acting like a goddamn commie bastard by printing money and bailing them out??? Fucking socialists are ruining everything!

 

[Arks&sparka]

We voted in Trump on a strong dollar. I consider him a wannabee dictator. His Branch Covidians would gladly give him Hitler power.

We'll fix that in November, forever.

Or make it worse.

 

[tff]

Let the cleansing of the imbeciles commence

Don't forget to run to your churches tomorrow



Mayor Lenny Curry reopened beaches and parks in Jacksonville, Florida on Friday, after Governor Ron DeSantis gave the green light for them to reopen, despite the state hitting a record number of coronavirus cases. When they opened at 5 p.m., crowds flooded the area, ignoring social distancing warnings.

 

[rjhenn]

People that are on them are sinking, the vent isn't an anchor, it's a life raft. Many on life rafts don't make it to shore.
My info was from a doctor on TV asserting that in his hospital on CNN that when they can get you on a vent, you have a good chance.
This has to be a knowable stat. How many people on vents survive, how many die, compared to how many people required one and it was
not available, same ratio. If I'm gasping I use that last breath to scream for a vent. I bet you'd do likewise.

I'd just ask for some extra oxygen.

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[rjhenn]

Yeah there is an element of the people that will criticize everything he does no matter what, so I tend to write those idiots off as irrational. I have my criticisms but I'm never allowed to talk about them because there are the buzzards that rant about him being a Russian plant or King of the lizard people or some moronic bullshit like that.

So if you want to rant and rave about how Trump told 60,000 lies or some other conspiracy theory you can do so to def ears. I've heard all of that nonsense already.

And then there is the element of the people, including you , who will obsessively deny every negative truth about Trump and defend his every incompetent move.

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[rjhenn]

I don't blame people for not knowing at the world health organization was a political lobbyist group. But we know now. And I think Donald Trump made the right decision in defunding them.


we are living in the age of information. But with that comes the realization that experts can be wrong or crooked. That's what we have here. A crooked con artist dishonest political organization that wrapped itself in the cloak of expertise.

I don't think anybody should be put in prison or skinned alive. We just shouldn't give them any more money.


you could say that but we don't really know. What we absolutely no is that 2 trillion dollars that was just given away is it going to have repercussions for decades. And this might become endemic so it might have been for nothing.

Cutting taxes coupled with deregulation is good for the economy taxes are like a weight on your ankles and over regulation is like a moose around your neck.

He should have cut spending though.
Spending cases debt to skyrocket. All president's do that.

What we "absolutely no" [SIC] is the GOP is a "crooked con artist dishonest political organization". The right is buried in wacko conspiracy theories, as you demonstrate.

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[Dutch Uncle]

And then there is the element of the people, including you , who will obsessively deny every negative truth about Trump and defend his every incompetent move.

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There are will always be such people. Obama had them too. They're called "groupies".

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[Nordberg]

Rightys should go along with their lives ignoring the safety rules others will follow. That is how you prove you are correct and nearly every doctor on the planet is in a left-wing plot. It is such an easy thing to do. Go for it. You should have Trumpy parties and Trump reindeer games. Mosh pits would be fun. take your families over to other righty homes for get-togethers. Do that for about 2 months and we all will have to admit you were right.

 

[rjhenn]

I don't blame people for not knowing at the world health organization was a political lobbyist group. But we know now. And I think Donald Trump made the right decision in defunding them.


we are living in the age of information. But with that comes the realization that experts can be wrong or crooked. That's what we have here. A crooked con artist dishonest political organization that wrapped itself in the cloak of expertise.

I don't think anybody should be put in prison or skinned alive. We just shouldn't give them any more money.


you could say that but we don't really know. What we absolutely no is that 2 trillion dollars that was just given away is it going to have repercussions for decades. And this might become endemic so it might have been for nothing.

Cutting taxes coupled with deregulation is good for the economy taxes are like a weight on your ankles and over regulation is like a moose around your neck.

He should have cut spending though.
Spending cases debt to skyrocket. All president's do that.

The last hundred years tell us that GOP presidents tend to undermine the economy, while Democratic presidents tend to strengthen the economy.

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