I was born in the year of the Spanish Flu — and I’m not ready to leave

I moved her and her dogs and cats in with me when I retired! She is legally blind!

You are a great child....... Those "facilities" can be death camps..

I live in a town of about 180,000 we had only two deaths a couple months ago & we had 88 cases since-no deaths..

Sadly I just learn two days ago a dear friend that recently moved to Arizona & her dad have it... He is in 80's, she is 62ish but both doing OK so far..
 
You are a great child....... Those "facilities" can be death camps..

I live in a town of about 180,000 we had only two deaths a couple months ago & we had 88 cases since-no deaths..

Sadly I just learn two days ago a dear friend that recently moved to Arizona & her dad have it... He is in 80's, she is 62ish but both doing OK so far..

My Mom is pretty easy to care for, as she still does most everything for herself for only having about 15% vision left in one eye, and the other already totally blind, and a knee replacement. Glaucoma is a Beast!

She loves my cooking and never complains- OK I lied- SHE HATES DONALD TRUMP!
 
Wise women... lol

My friend told me last night she picked it up volunteering @ a nursing facility in Phoenix & is positive she passed it on to her dad...... She feels pretty bad right now.......

Stay safe..
 
Another lesson for us is the Spanish flu killed most of the people in the second wave. Opening up too soon is a bad idea.

That depends on if the second wave of COVID would kill more people than those who would otherwise die from suicide or domestic abuse.

The lethality of COVID is lower than that of the Spanish Flu, and we have much better medical care than we had back then. We also have better PPE and sanitizers.

We can expect the second wave of COVID to be worse than the first, but we can also expect that the summer spread will be less severe than what the fall and winter will bring.

In order to weather the economic effects of the second wave, opening up in the summer makes sense. Spending the whole summer in isolation would just lead to doing more of it by the fall. Our economy (and society) would not be able to withstand that much isolation.
 
That depends on if the second wave of COVID would kill more people than those who would otherwise die from suicide or domestic abuse.

The lethality of COVID is lower than that of the Spanish Flu, and we have much better medical care than we had back then. We also have better PPE and sanitizers.

We can expect the second wave of COVID to be worse than the first, but we can also expect that the summer spread will be less severe than what the fall and winter will bring.

In order to weather the economic effects of the second wave, opening up in the summer makes sense. Spending the whole summer in isolation would just lead to doing more of it by the fall. Our economy (and society) would not be able to withstand that much isolation.

Wash your hands and don't sneeze on people. Derp!
 
That depends on if the second wave of COVID would kill more people than those who would otherwise die from suicide or domestic abuse.

The lethality of COVID is lower than that of the Spanish Flu, and we have much better medical care than we had back then. We also have better PPE and sanitizers.

We can expect the second wave of COVID to be worse than the first, but we can also expect that the summer spread will be less severe than what the fall and winter will bring.

In order to weather the economic effects of the second wave, opening up in the summer makes sense. Spending the whole summer in isolation would just lead to doing more of it by the fall. Our economy (and society) would not be able to withstand that much isolation.
It’s because of the advancement in care, there is a big difference between 1918 and 2020. Do you really not know this?
 
There should be more of that and less nursing homes.

People are calling people all kinds of names who are being extra careful right now and practicing distancing and staying away from restaurant food, and wearing masks etc.

It's become political like gun safety and gun control.

But, I have too much at stake, at risk, not necessarily thinking just about myself, as I have to think about what would happen should my 90 year old Mom have to endure this killer virus.
 
There should be more of that and less nursing homes.
Nursing homes are necessary for elders that require around the clock medical care. It is different if your elderly parent is in fairly good health. You can not leave a dementia patient at home by themselves and good in home care is not affordable to most families.
 
Nursing homes are necessary for elders that require around the clock medical care. It is different if your elderly parent is in fairly good health. You can not leave a dementia patient at home by themselves and good in home care is not affordable to most families.

The vast majority of people in nursing homes do not require "round the clock medical care". Their kids just stick them there because they don't want to be bothered.

Welcome to New Commie America. Cuomo used the Covid-19 as an excuse to painfuly euthanize a bunch of them. Bad bad bad.
 
The vast majority of people in nursing homes do not require "round the clock medical care". Their kids just stick them there because they don't want to be bothered.

Welcome to New Commie America. Cuomo used the Covid-19 as an excuse to painfuly euthanize a bunch of them. Bad bad bad.
Do you have proof of that? Thanks
 
Fair enough, but we really do need to open things up soon. The economy and society needs a short reprieve from isolation in order to deal with another round when the fall comes.
I’m not against opening up as long as its with precautions. I won’t be going out, I’m high risk. I also do not want the medical community overwhelmed which is the problem if cautions are not implemented. We could have been South Korea, instead we are 90,000 dead.
 
I’m not against opening up as long as its with precautions. I won’t be going out, I’m high risk. I also do not want the medical community overwhelmed which is the problem if cautions are not implemented. We could have been South Korea, instead we are 90,000 dead.

There are multiple reasons why South Korea was different. First, they had much better protocols for testing. They were able to rollout far more tests far faster than us, because their equivalent of the FDA didn't stall the approval of tests. By contrast, we still have a shortage of tests. This isn't because of Trump, contrary to the media's claim, but instead because of the FDA's emergency protocols for approving tests.

If the FDA had been more open to approving tests (and more efficient), then we'd probably have close to as many tests per capita as South Korea has.

Another thing that works in South Korea's favor is that their society is relatively homogeneous. Because of that, their culture is easier to organize toward collective efforts. South Koreans tend to be better about following rules in general. Granted, conformity has its downsides as well.
 
There are multiple reasons why South Korea was different. First, they had much better protocols for testing. They were able to rollout far more tests far faster than us, because their equivalent of the FDA didn't stall the approval of tests. By contrast, we still have a shortage of tests. This isn't because of Trump, contrary to the media's claim, but instead because of the FDA's emergency protocols for approving tests.

If the FDA had been more open to approving tests (and more efficient), then we'd probably have close to as many tests per capita as South Korea has.

Another thing that works in South Korea's favor is that their society is relatively homogeneous. Because of that, their culture is easier to organize toward collective efforts. South Koreans tend to be better about following rules in general. Granted, conformity has its downsides as well.
We will have to disagree, we could have done exactly what SK did, it wasn’t the FDA that was the problem.
 
We will have to disagree, we could have done exactly what SK did, it wasn’t the FDA that was the problem.

You're an idiot, South Korea and Taiwan learnt hard won lessons from SARS back in 2003. He is exactly right the US and the UK had considerable bureaucracies to overcome. Not that you'd ever acknowledge that because you want to get Trump at all costs.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...coronavirus-testing-failures-were-inevitable/

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article...sting-programme-is-bogged-down-in-bureaucracy


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