Harlem Globetrotters in War on Terror!

[Onceler]

"On 9/11 we were attacked by radical fundamentalist terrorists and real people died. Our president at the time, vowed to avenge the deaths by defeating said terrorist fundamentalism,"

And so...he attacked a secular nation that didn't attack us?

That's all we need, Dix. Thanks for stopping by, San Diego...

 

[Cancel3]

No, this is an insight and evaluation of who we are as a country. On 9/11 we were attacked by radical fundamentalist terrorists and real people died. Our president at the time, vowed to avenge the deaths by defeating said terrorist fundamentalism, and that was also very real, with very real consequences.

But we live in the "new age" and we don't understand "reality" anymore. Everything is an X-box 360 game, a simulation, a fantasy world! When things started getting tough, a bunch of us threw up our hands and gave up! It's no fun playing a game you can't beat, and it's no fun playing a game you win all the time! So pinheads have tweaked and altered the game to make it more interesting. And that's where we're at today.... half this country is playing a game! It's a tough game, but they think they are winning now! And if they don't, oh well, it's just a game, right? There are plenty more games out there! We can keep feeding our need to be entertained, and we can find new and different games to do that. I hear there is a really neat economics simulation in the works!

It is not about anyone throwing up their hands and giving up.

Its about the Bush administration invading Iraq in 2003 and promptly ignoring what we SHOULD have been doing to fight war on terrorism.


What the average civilian thinks or does has no bearing on the war. That is simply fluff in the background.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

You pathetic loser. I knew people who died on 9/11, and yeah, I did want to play "fight the terrorist", as in Bin Laden & the people who actually ATTACKED US.

Moron. Iraq was a PNAC fantasy, and invading that country has exacerbated the problem, and made us less safe, all while OBL & the rest continue to plot against us. You have been wrong from day one about terror, but that isn't stopping you.

You're a truly hateful person.

Yeah, I know. Bush didn't obtain the golden goblet before he morphed into the next realm, and we ended up having to fight the galactons on morgil turf, which substantially weakened our mystical powers! IF he had only listened to you, the profound guru of gaming, he would have known to avoid the fight with the wizard before he had his heart points built up! Stupid Bush!!!

 

[Cancel3]

Yeah, I know. Bush didn't obtain the golden goblet before he morphed into the next realm, and we ended up having to fight the galactons on morgil turf, which substantially weakened our mystical powers! IF he had only listened to you, the profound guru of gaming, he would have known to avoid the fight with the wizard before he had his heart points built up! Stupid Bush!!!

Look Dix, if you are going to defend what the Bush administration has done, don't whine when their huge mistakes are pointed out.

Bush STARTED out in Afganistan. And there was a reason for it. But then he wanted Iraq and promptly blew the whole deal.

Sounding sarcastic and stupid at the same time is tough. But you pull it off.

 

[Onceler]

Yeah, I know. Bush didn't obtain the golden goblet before he morphed into the next realm, and we ended up having to fight the galactons on morgil turf, which substantially weakened our mystical powers! IF he had only listened to you, the profound guru of gaming, he would have known to avoid the fight with the wizard before he had his heart points built up! Stupid Bush!!!

Lunatic. You've truly lost your mind since election day.

I'm so glad you'll only be spewing this stuff from the minority for the next decade or 2....you've earned it.

 

[maineman]

"On 9/11 we were attacked by radical fundamentalist terrorists and real people died. Our president at the time, vowed to avenge the deaths by defeating said terrorist fundamentalism,"

And so...he attacked a secular nation that didn't attack us?

That's all we need, Dix. Thanks for stopping by, San Diego...

precisely

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Look Dix, if you are going to defend what the Bush administration has done, don't whine when their huge mistakes are pointed out.

Bush STARTED out in Afganistan. And there was a reason for it. But then he wanted Iraq and promptly blew the whole deal.

Sounding sarcastic and stupid at the same time is tough. But you pull it off.

Oh, I'm not whining Sol. I expected mistakes to be made in war, they always are. During WWII, we made monumental miscalculations in our enemies, costing us hundreds of thousands of lives (that's 10-20 times more than Iraq). Bad things happen in war, and it never goes as planned.

I also understand Bush didn't "play the game" the way you would have, and that is the root of the whole problem here, you are frustrated at his moves, and you've snatched the controller from his hands! ....Don't you hate it when the X-box just has one controller, and you have to sit there and watch your cousin lose, when you know full well you could win this game?

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

It is not about anyone throwing up their hands and giving up.

Its about the Bush administration invading Iraq in 2003 and promptly ignoring what we SHOULD have been doing to fight war on terrorism.


What the average civilian thinks or does has no bearing on the war. That is simply fluff in the background.

So basically.... because Bush invaded Iraq, the only country on the planet alQaeda had no interest whatsoever in, according to you... we end up with a school teacher as director of the CIA? Well that just makes all the sense in the world to me! I'm glad you cleared it up for us!

 

[Onceler]

Dixie's never been one to bail on an analogy just because it sucks...

 

[Cancel3]

Let me add a little more for you Dixie.

If I am not seeming to be involved in the front lines battle against terrorism, its because I am not qualified.

I pay almost a third of my gross income to fund the operations. I have not been cheering about because the administration in charge has been so inept at running the show that there is very little to cheer about.

I have done volunteer work when I was in Clay County. Clay County has the highest percentage of the population serving in the national guard and also being sent to Iraq, of any county in Alabama. They were able to do that because the community steps up and helps the families of the soldiers.

But you didn't know that. And rather than think that people might do something worthwhile, you come out with this obnoxious rant about the Globetrotters, xboxes and some lunacy about a golden goblet.



You are just LOOKING for something to bitch about. You want to complain, but you offer no help and no ideas.

Hmmm, sounds a lot like what you accused the liberals of doing. Are we back to the Freudian Projection again??

Dixie, you are just trolling and trying to sound like an expert, when you are nothing even close to that.

You are just bitter and pissed.

 

[Cancel3]

I also understand Bush didn't "play the game" the way you would have, and that is the root of the whole problem here, you are frustrated at his moves, and you've snatched the controller from his hands! ....

Dixie you are dreaming. I understand that Bush didn't run the war the way HIS OWN GENERALs said he should.

And you are STILL missing the point. (or avoiding it out of embarrassment)

The war on terrorism was launched in afganistan. Invading iraq was not part of that war. It was a separate war.

And yes, I am frustrated by the lack of results in the war on terrorism. But I am even more frustrated by the fact that some many of our resources were focused on Iraq.

YOu keep trying to make these gaming analogies. They are ignorant. I do not play video games, so you are wasting it on me.



I know that the war on terrorism was NOT a priority for the Bush administration. They wanted to win Iraq and show what they could do. But the shorted the forces fighting in afganistan and screwed up the war in iraq.

 

[Cancel3]

So basically.... because Bush invaded Iraq, the only country on the planet alQaeda had no interest whatsoever in, according to you... we end up with a school teacher as director of the CIA? Well that just makes all the sense in the world to me! I'm glad you cleared it up for us!

What? Are you in drugs?? Where the fuck do you get these wild connections? For someone who complains that people put words in his mouth, you certainly don't mind doing it to someone else.

Because Bush invaded Iraq, the actual war on terrorism was put on the back burner BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. I didn't do that. The liberals, conservatives and independents all across the country did do that. Obama didn't do that. YOUR man George W. did that.

We have Panetta as the probable head of the CIA because that is who Obama wants to fill the position.

But you want spies in there? Like the ones who failed to get intell that would have stopped the biggest attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor? Like the ones who bought the lies (or started them) about Iraq having such an arsenal of WMDs? Like the ones who have not found bin Laden?

There have been spies running the CIA, and please tell us how it has worked out??? It has been a joke,

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

But you want spies in there? Like the ones who failed to get intell that would have stopped the biggest attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor? Like the ones who bought the lies (or started them) about Iraq having such an arsenal of WMDs? Like the ones who have not found bin Laden?

You're right, a school teacher political hack Clinton ass kisser is far better to have leading the intelligence of the US! What could I possibly be thinking?

 

[Cancel3]

You're right, a school teacher political hack Clinton ass kisser is far better to have leading the intelligence of the US! What could I possibly be thinking?

You could be thinking "I know my guy was an idiot, but I can't admit that on the forum".

Its ok Dixie, the people know you have been wrong so often you haven't a clue where to turn.

Focus your frustration in positive, constructive areas, and give up the rants and ridiculous analogies.

 

[Cancel3]

I didn't know Panetta was a school teacher. I know he graduated magna cum laude with a degree in political science. I know he is a lawyer.

Mostly I know he has spent most of his life working in politics.

But when did he teach school?


I was just reading that when he was in the army, he was chief of operations and planning of the intelligence section at Fort Ord. Hmmm, so I guess he does have some military intell in his background.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

You could be thinking "I know my guy was an idiot, but I can't admit that on the forum".

Its ok Dixie, the people know you have been wrong so often you haven't a clue where to turn.

Focus your frustration in positive, constructive areas, and give up the rants and ridiculous analogies.

Well, first of all, I don't have "a guy" and never have. This isn't a game of "my guy vs. your guy" like it is for you. If you mean President Bush, he was not my first pick for Clinton's replacement, he wasn't even in the top 3, but he was elected to be my president, just as Obama was. So, he is no more "my guy" than Obama. It really doesn't matter if Bush was "an idiot" or if he did the right things, he isn't in the game anymore... we've replaced him with an inexperienced nice looking black man, who is appointing clowns to fill fundamentally important positions in our government.

Now, I would like to be able to hope that he knows what he's doing, and we can defeat radical Islamic terror with a handful of school teachers who seek to treat all terrorists fairly and make sure we play nice, but I have a hard time believing that will be the case. I would like to think, the whole radical Islamic world will just be so enamored by Obama's charm and charisma, they will fall in love with us and stop trying to kill us all, but for some reason, I can't seem to imagine it. Maybe that happens when the game gets to the next level, and we achieve 'immortality' points, huh?

 

[Cancel3]

Ok, I got curious.

Panetta....

Born in 1938

Got his BA and his law degree and served as editor of the Law Review before joining the military in 1964 at the age of 26

Got out of the military in 1966 after receiving a commendation medal

Was legislative ass't to the Senate Minority Whip.

Was special ass't to the Secretary of Health Education & Welfare

Was Director of the U.S. Office for Civil Rights.

Went to NY and was the executive ass't to the mayor, overseeing the city's relations with the state and federal gov't.

In 1971 he returned to Monterey and practiced law at the firm Panetta, Thompson, and Panetta.

US Representative from CA's 17th district from 1977 to 1993.

From 1989 to 1993, Panetta was chairman of the House Committee on the Budget. He also served as a member of that committee from 1979 to 1985. He chaired the House Agriculture Committee’s Subcommittee on Domestic Marketing, Consumer Relations and Nutrition; the House Administration Committee’s Subcommittee on Personnel and Police; and the Select Committee on Hunger’s Task Force on Domestic Hunger. He also served as vice chairman of the Caucus of Vietnam Era Veterans in Congress and as a member of the President’s Commission on Foreign Language and International Studies.

Panetta left Congress in 1993, at the beginning of his ninth term, to become Director of the Office of Management and Budget for the incoming Clinton administration. In that position, he was instrumental in developing the 1993 budget package that is widely credited with achieving a balanced federal budget and eventual budget surpluses.

Panetta was appointed Chief of Staff to President Clinton on July 17, 1994, and served in that position until January 20, 1997. He was the principal negotiator of the successful 1996 budget compromise, and was widely praised for bringing order and focus to White House operations and policy making.

Panetta currently co-directs with his wife Sylvia the Leon & Sylvia Panetta Institute for Public Policy, based at California State University, Monterey Bay – a university he helped establish on the site of the former U.S. Army base, Fort Ord. The Institute serves as a nonpartisan, not-for-profit study center for the advancement public policy, seeking in particular to attract thoughtful men and women to lives of public service.

In addition, Mr. Panetta serves as Distinguished Scholar to the Chancellor of the California State University system. He advises the Chancellor on national issues affecting higher education and teaches a Master’s course in Public Policy at the Panetta Institute.
In 1997, he was also appointed Presidential Professor at Santa Clara University, teaching a course called Studies in Public Policy

Mr. Panetta has served as a leader in numerous community and national public policy organizations throughout his career. In March 2006, he was chosen to serve on the Iraq Study Group, a bi-partisan committee established at the urging of Congress and organized by the U.S. Institute of Peace, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, the Center for the Study of the Presidency and the James A. Baker III Institute. Since 2005, he has served as member of the Independent Task Force on Immigration and America’s Future. In November 2004, Governor Schwarzenegger appointed him co-chair of the Council on Base Support and Retention.

Mr. Panetta served a six-year term on the Board of Directors of the New York Stock Exchange beginning in 1997. He was chairman of the Committee for Review for the New York Stock Exchange Board of Directors and was co-chair of the Corporate Governance and Listing Standards Committee for the Stock Exchange.

He served on the National Review Board of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, the board of the National Steinbeck Center, and the University of California Santa Cruz Foundation, and since June 1998, he has served on the board of the Santa Clara University Law School Board of Visitors. He also serves as a member of the Board of Trustees for Santa Clara University; as a member of the Fleishman-Hillard International Advisory Board; as a trustee for the Community Hospital of the Monterey Peninsula; and as a director for the Monterey Bay Aquarium. He is chairman of the National Board of Advisors of the Center for National Policy as well as chairman of the Pew Oceans Commission. He is also a member of the Board of Directors for Blue Shield of California; IDT; Zenith; Connetics; the National Marine Sanctuary Foundation; Bread for the World; and Close Up. He lectures nationally and internationally on the state of the economy, the federal budget and other issues facing our nation, and is the recipient of awards and honors too numerous to list.





So he taught one course, after having done all that. And you are calling him a school teacher?

He has been the white house chief of staff, a us representative, and on the board of directors of the NY Stock Exchange. And you want to call him a teacher?
There is almost a seed of truth, so its not an outright lie, but its about as misleading as you can get.

 

[Cancel3]

Well, first of all, I don't have "a guy" and never have. This isn't a game of "my guy vs. your guy" like it is for you. If you mean President Bush, he was not my first pick for Clinton's replacement, he wasn't even in the top 3, but he was elected to be my president, just as Obama was. So, he is no more "my guy" than Obama. It really doesn't matter if Bush was "an idiot" or if he did the right things, he isn't in the game anymore... we've replaced him with an inexperienced nice looking black man, who is appointing clowns to fill fundamentally important positions in our government.

Now, I would like to be able to hope that he knows what he's doing, and we can defeat radical Islamic terror with a handful of school teachers who seek to treat all terrorists fairly and make sure we play nice, but I have a hard time believing that will be the case. I would like to think, the whole radical Islamic world will just be so enamored by Obama's charm and charisma, they will fall in love with us and stop trying to kill us all, but for some reason, I can't seem to imagine it. Maybe that happens when the game gets to the next level, and we achieve 'immortality' points, huh?

With school teahcers? Dixie, you are being purposefully misleading. Calling Panetta a "school teacher" is simply wrong. Professor might fit as a footnote on the man's resume, but thats it.


No Dixie, Bush was your guy. You have defended him countless times. You are even trying to make it seem as though he did the right thing and now Obama will do the wrong thing.




You have been shown to be just a petty whiner in this thread. Your analogies are ridiculous. The assertions you try to make fail. And you trivialize things you don't want to discuss.

 

[Onceler]

"Well, first of all, I don't have "a guy" and never have. This isn't a game of "my guy vs. your guy" like it is for you. If you mean President Bush, he was not my first pick for Clinton's replacement, he wasn't even in the top 3, but he was elected to be my president, just as Obama "

LMAO! Yeah, he just happened to be there; why, you can probably barely remember his name!

Let me ring a bell for you, Dix: I LOVE GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!

Now...who said that?

 

[ib1yysguy]

Epic pwnage.