WE ARE AT WAR and moderates could lose this election AGAIN

Since that's the only one you mention do you agree that all those resisting arrest or not complying were acting stupidly as depicted in Rock's stand up?
There are others besides Castile, but I don't remember the names. There was the older guy in the gas station who was getting his wallet after being told to do so. He was standing outside the car when he was first approached. What we see too often, is a cop shouting orders at these people, often confusing the victims. 'Show me your ID!...let me see your hands!'

That's two totally different commands given at the same time.


I agree that there are many cases where the victims do something that is pretty dumb. It doesn't mean that they should be shot. Are cops really that poorly trained that they shoot before they even know if there is a weapon? Why are they always trained to hit center mass?

If a perp is approaching, why not shoot them in the shoulder or leg? Are they that poor of a shot?
 
(shaking head) :) I must be missing a step somewhere. :(
(I'll try again later) Thanks for pointing out the icons!



:thumbsup:
Once you hit the 'reply' button, you will notice that the text you are quoting is 'wrapped' in quote tags.

quote and /quote wrapped in brackets. This creates the box. You can do it manually, or you can use the icon. In fact, when you start to separate a quoted comment, it starts with
Jack said:
That puts your name on the quote. That's already done by Vbulletin. So the first part that you want to separate only requires you to put the /quote at the end, adding the brackets. I've deleted the brackets because it would automatically put everything I've typed between the
Jack said:
, and the /quote in a box.
If you want to practice, just put the quote and /quote on either end of any text and preview your post. You'll see the box.
 
Are cops really that poorly trained that they shoot before they even know if there is a weapon? Why are they always trained to hit center mass?

If a perp is approaching, why not shoot them in the shoulder or leg? Are they that poor of a shot?
You'd have to ask those questions to a cop. I read that there are 800,000 of them. You might get that many different answers.
Would you be a cop? Would you take a job where you could be forced to physically neutralize another human? I wouldn't.
800,000 LEO's out there with weapons. What is your solution so that a cop never again shoots a black guy ?
So far I get no answers although Baltimore seems to have come up with a solution - simply no longer enforce criminal activity in black 'hoods.
 
You'd have to ask those questions to a cop. I read that there are 800,000 of them. You might get that many different answers.
Would you be a cop? Would you take a job where you could be forced to physically neutralize another human? I wouldn't.
800,000 LEO's out there with weapons. What is your solution so that a cop never again shoots a black guy ?
So far I get no answers although Baltimore seems to have come up with a solution - simply no longer enforce criminal activity in black 'hoods.
It starts with training.


Piss tests too. In many areas, these ex military cops are bulked up from the gym. They suffer roid rage, which explains a lot of these incidents.


The question is, why are they always cleared by white juries? If they even get to court.
 
You want to riot and pillage cities, go right ahead. Burn em' to the ground. I couldn't care less, it's all on you. You're scared to come here and pull your bullshit. And you should be.

Don't worry about BACasscancer. He is a nobody. Just a wannabe black panther with a colostomy bag. He will be gone soon as he realizes that Trump is on his way to re-election. He won't have the courage to stay.

He is nothing more than a message board race hustler who preys on white guilt to try to bully people. He is unintelligent and has raised a crack whore for a daughter.
 
It starts with training.


Piss tests too. In many areas, these ex military cops are bulked up from the gym. They suffer roid rage, which explains a lot of these incidents.


The question is, why are they always cleared by white juries? If they even get to court.


Such bullshit not even backed up by statistics

Again this is only happening in democrat run cities with black police chiefs. Take your grievances up with them and leave the rest of us the fuck alone
 
It starts with training.


Piss tests too. In many areas, these ex military cops are bulked up from the gym. They suffer roid rage, which explains a lot of these incidents.


The question is, why are they always cleared by white juries? If they even get to court.
1. Please post a training protocol. (This should be interesting from someone who has never been a cop).
2. Ex military taking steroids. Link to the study where this had been verified would be useful. (Assumption without backing data)
3. Because all whites are rayciss. Didn't get the memo? (Stupid question, generalisation fallacy)
 
1. Please post a training protocol. (This should be interesting from someone who has never been a cop).
2. Ex military taking steroids. Link to the study where this had been verified would be useful. (Assumption without backing data)
3. Because all whites are rayciss. Didn't get the memo? (Stupid question, generalisation fallacy)
Google anything you are suffering with. In the process, you will either refute my claim, or remain silent about it.
 
There are others besides Castile, but I don't remember the names. There was the older guy in the gas station who was getting his wallet after being told to do so. He was standing outside the car when he was first approached. What we see too often, is a cop shouting orders at these people, often confusing the victims. 'Show me your ID!...let me see your hands!'

That's two totally different commands given at the same time.


I agree that there are many cases where the victims do something that is pretty dumb. It doesn't mean that they should be shot. Are cops really that poorly trained that they shoot before they even know if there is a weapon? Why are they always trained to hit center mass?

If a perp is approaching, why not shoot them in the shoulder or leg? Are they that poor of a shot?

Althea: "There are others besides Castile, but I don't remember the names. There was the older guy in the gas station who was getting his wallet after being told to do so. He was standing outside the car when he was first approached. What we see too often, is a cop shouting orders at these people, often confusing the victims. 'Show me your ID!...let me see your hands!''
Jack: Yep. I remember that incident. The guy goes to fetch his wallet from inside his car and gets shot. I think the Citizen has to remember that Cops get shot, they meet up with the most unsavory types in their line of Business, the Cop has no idea who YOU ARE. So, if the Citizen can remember that the Cop doesn't want to get shot and will shoot YOU before you can shoot HIM, act accordingly. DON'T DO ANY THING STUPID!

Althea: "I agree that there are many cases where the victims do something that is pretty dumb. It doesn't mean that they should be shot. Are cops really that poorly trained that they shoot before they even know if there is a weapon? Why are they always trained to hit center mass?"
Jack: I think there is a certain type of person drawn to Police Work. They like training at the Shooting Range. And ... I think they are trained to empty their weapon once they open fire.

Althea: "If a perp is approaching, why not shoot them in the shoulder or leg? Are they that poor of a shot?"
Jack: The use of 'Lethal Force' needs to be addressed. Too many 'less than scholarly-types' have been killed needlessly. (I'm not a Cop, but the Citizen wants to walk away from the confrontation ALSO)
 
Once you hit the 'reply' button, you will notice that the text you are quoting is 'wrapped' in quote tags.

quote and /quote wrapped in brackets. This creates the box. You can do it manually, or you can use the icon. In fact, when you start to separate a quoted comment, it starts with
Jack said:
That puts your name on the quote. That's already done by Vbulletin. So the first part that you want to separate only requires you to put the /quote at the end, adding the brackets. I've deleted the brackets because it would automatically put everything I've typed between the
Jack said:
, and the /quote in a box.
If you want to practice, just put the quote and /quote on either end of any text and preview your post. You'll see the box.

:) Thanks. I'll give it some practice.
(I am used to just typing the person's Username and then C&P the portion of text I want to reply to)

OK. I'm going to 'Wrap Quote Tags' around your "If you want to practice, just put" ... and then click 'Post Quick Reply'.

 
You'd have to ask those questions to a cop. I read that there are 800,000 of them. You might get that many different answers.
Would you be a cop? Would you take a job where you could be forced to physically neutralize another human? I wouldn't.
800,000 LEO's out there with weapons. What is your solution so that a cop never again shoots a black guy ?
So far I get no answers although Baltimore seems to have come up with a solution - simply no longer enforce criminal activity in black 'hoods.

Hire Black Cops to Patrol/Respond to black neighborhoods.
(as far as the typical mixed neighborhood, ... ?)
 
It starts with training.


Piss tests too. In many areas, these ex military cops are bulked up from the gym. They suffer roid rage, which explains a lot of these incidents.


The question is, why are they always cleared by white juries? If they even get to court.

They respond by NOT enforcing ANY laws in Black Communities. Reinforcing the idea that Black Communities are 'dangerous'.
 
Now what the eff you gonna do when they have guns pointed at you? Resist? Drive away? As they're yelling for me to open up with guns pointed at me I'm supposed to calmly reply, "Sorry officers but I'd like to see a search warrant" ?
Guns > the law in the short time. Plus I had nothing to hide. Just use common sense. I'm still here. That says it all.

Why did they have guns pointed at you? You didn't report them to the police department?

If a cop has a gun pointed in my face, then I am likely to obey illegal orders, but that's the point. They shouldn't be pointing guns at anyone for no good reason anyway; and every police officer who behaves that way needs to be identified and fired.
 
Welcome to our sewer.

I think we really need to get the octogenarians out of office first. It's time.

And I'm old.

Thanks for the welcome. I haven't looked around enough to form an opinion yet, but I have high hopes.

Yes, most older people are by definition the enemies of progressivism. It doesn't help that older people tend to be much more politically active than younger people. They control the political parties and keep reelecting incumbants because well, old dogs and new tricks. Add to that the influence of money and I think the American political system is utterly broken.
 
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