Which one of these two terrorist organizations are you saying is legitimate: Proud Boys or the Michigan Militia?
The Southern Poverty Law Center is very legitimate, but those two right wing terrorist organizations are nothing like it.
BREAKING: Six men charged in alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
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Which one of these two terrorist organizations are you saying is legitimate: Proud Boys or the Michigan Militia?
The Southern Poverty Law Center is very legitimate, but those two right wing terrorist organizations are nothing like it.
By more than 2 to 1`.Lots if iotas there.
It would be the worst mistake you've ever made. I can promise you'd leave worse off than the worse time you've ever experienced. You know it, that's why you run like a pussy.
PostmodernProphet
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Neither of those terrorist organizations are legitimate......
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello ziggy,
OK, that's one person who was not a Trump fan.
I searched and found that many of the rest are right wing extremists:
"The suspects were tied to a militia group called the Wolverine Watchmen.[11][12] The suspects named in the federal indictment, charged with conspiracy to commit kidnapping, were Adam Fox, Ty Garbin, Barry Croft, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, and Brandon Caserta. Five of the men were Michigan residents, while the sixth was from Delaware.[13][14] The suspects charged with state crimes, including providing material support for terrorist acts, firearm crimes, and gang membership, were Shawn Fix, Eric Molitor, Michael Null, William Null, Pete Musico, Joseph Morrison, and Paul Bellar.[15]
Adam Fox and Barry Croft were accused of being the ringleaders of the plot.[16] According to a reporter with NBC affiliate WOOD-TV, Fox had been living in the basement of his former workplace at a vacuum repair shop, having been permitted to stay there by the owner because Fox was homeless and had dogs. The basement was used to hold one of the group's meetings.[17][18] Fox posted a YouTube video in June, mentioning Whitmer's handling of the pandemic as one of his motives for the plot.[2] According to his employer, Fox espoused anti-police and anti-government views, along with support for the Boogaloo movement, [Far Right Group] and had recently become worried about the U.S. becoming a communist country and Democratic politicians taking away his guns.[17]
Brandon Caserta was depicted wearing a Hawaiian-style tee shirt associated with the Boogaloo movement in a TikTok video; and on Facebook, he praised Kyle Rittenhouse, a civilian who shot and killed two protesters during unrest in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Caserta was also a "COVID-19 denier" and supported the QAnon conspiracy theory.[19]
Two of the suspects, twin brothers Michael and William Null, were photographed at a protest held by Michigan United for Liberty, a right-wing group protesting against Whitmer's COVID-19 lockdown orders, at the Michigan State Capitol on April 30.[20] "
"In early 2020, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) became aware of the plot through social media chats concerning the violent overthrow of state governments and law enforcement. The FBI started infiltrating the group online and in person with informants in June, according to a criminal complaint.[5][9][10] The plot was reportedly hatched on June 6, during one of the group's meetings in Dublin, Ohio, a suburb located northwest of Columbus.[21][22]
During a "field training event" on June 14,[21] the plotters reportedly discussed recruiting up to 200 people to "storm" the Michigan State Capitol, take Whitmer and others as hostages, and use Molotov cocktails to keep police at bay.[1][11] There were also discussions of attacking a Michigan State Police station.[23] They bought weapons such as an 800,000-volt taser and held training and planning meetings.[1] They also brought in a member of another militia, who later became an informant for the FBI in the investigation, but the second militia's involvement in the plot was kept minimal.[23]
At some point, the plan shifted to kidnapping Whitmer at her private vacation home north of Elk Rapids[a] and taking her to a location in Wisconsin while attacking a highway with improvised explosive devices (IEDs) to divert police attention or slow law enforcement response. The group purportedly rehearsed their plans and plotted for months ahead of time, discussing hiring a real estate agent to find the home and get advance knowledge of the surrounding area. In August and September, they conducted surveillance on the home. They also tested two IEDs, but both of them failed. The suspects planned to try Whitmer for treason before November 3, the day of the election, and "unite others in their cause and take violent action against multiple state governments that they believe are violating the U.S. Constitution."[1][10][11][21][24][25] They also discussed starting a second civil war "leading to societal collapse", and creating a new society that adhered to the U.S. Bill of Rights.[1][4]
The plot was thwarted with the arrests of all the members involved on the night of October 7, with charges being laid against them the next day. Search warrants and arrests were executed all across Michigan. The arrests were reportedly part of a planned effort between federal and state authorities, and not in response to an imminent threat. At least seven FBI field offices, along with the operational divisions at the J. Edgar Hoover Building in Washington, D.C., were reportedly involved in coordinating the arrests.[26][27][28] "
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OK, that's one person who was not a Trump fan.
I searched and found that many of the rest are right wing extremists:
"The suspects were tied to a militia group called the Wolverine Watchmen.[11][12] The suspects named in the federal indictment, charged with conspiracy to commit kidnapping, were Adam Fox, Ty Garbin, Barry Croft, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, and Brandon Caserta. Five of the men were Michigan residents, while the sixth was from Delaware.[13][14] The suspects charged with state crimes, including providing material support for terrorist acts, firearm crimes, and gang membership, were Shawn Fix, Eric Molitor, Michael Null, William Null, Pete Musico, Joseph Morrison, and Paul Bellar.[15]
Adam Fox and Barry Croft were accused of being the ringleaders of the plot.[16] According to a reporter with NBC affiliate WOOD-TV, Fox had been living in the basement of his former workplace at a vacuum repair shop, having been permitted to stay there by the owner because Fox was homeless and had dogs. The basement was used to hold one of the group's meetings.[17][18] Fox posted a YouTube video in June, mentioning Whitmer's handling of the pandemic as one of his motives for the plot.[2] According to his employer, Fox espoused anti-police and anti-government views, along with support for the Boogaloo movement, [Far Right Group] and had recently become worried about the U.S. becoming a communist country and Democratic politicians taking away his guns.[17]
Brandon Caserta was depicted wearing a Hawaiian-style tee shirt associated with the Boogaloo movement in a TikTok video; and on Facebook, he praised Kyle Rittenhouse, a civilian who shot and killed two protesters during unrest in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Caserta was also a "COVID-19 denier" and supported the QAnon conspiracy theory.[19]
Two of the suspects, twin brothers Michael and William Null, were photographed at a protest held by Michigan United for Liberty, a right-wing group protesting against Whitmer's COVID-19 lockdown orders, at the Michigan State Capitol on April 30.[20] "
"In early 2020, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) became aware of the plot through social media chats concerning the violent overthrow of state governments and law enforcement. The FBI started infiltrating the group online and in person with informants in June, according to a criminal complaint.[5][9][10] The plot was reportedly hatched on June 6, during one of the group's meetings in Dublin, Ohio, a suburb located northwest of Columbus.[21][22]
During a "field training event" on June 14,[21] the plotters reportedly discussed recruiting up to 200 people to "storm" the Michigan State Capitol, take Whitmer and others as hostages, and use Molotov cocktails to keep police at bay.[1][11] There were also discussions of attacking a Michigan State Police station.[23] They bought weapons such as an 800,000-volt taser and held training and planning meetings.[1] They also brought in a member of another militia, who later became an informant for the FBI in the investigation, but the second militia's involvement in the plot was kept minimal.[23]
At some point, the plan shifted to kidnapping Whitmer at her private vacation home north of Elk Rapids[a] and taking her to a location in Wisconsin while attacking a highway with improvised explosive devices (IEDs) to divert police attention or slow law enforcement response. The group purportedly rehearsed their plans and plotted for months ahead of time, discussing hiring a real estate agent to find the home and get advance knowledge of the surrounding area. In August and September, they conducted surveillance on the home. They also tested two IEDs, but both of them failed. The suspects planned to try Whitmer for treason before November 3, the day of the election, and "unite others in their cause and take violent action against multiple state governments that they believe are violating the U.S. Constitution."[1][10][11][21][24][25] They also discussed starting a second civil war "leading to societal collapse", and creating a new society that adhered to the U.S. Bill of Rights.[1][4]
The plot was thwarted with the arrests of all the members involved on the night of October 7, with charges being laid against them the next day. Search warrants and arrests were executed all across Michigan. The arrests were reportedly part of a planned effort between federal and state authorities, and not in response to an imminent threat. At least seven FBI field offices, along with the operational divisions at the J. Edgar Hoover Building in Washington, D.C., were reportedly involved in coordinating the arrests.[26][27][28] "
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PMS changed my quote, because he cannot answer the simple question:
gemini104104
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Charges? Good and its the fake president tRump's fault when it comes to inciting and encouraging gutter proud boy type terrorism at also in their stupidity thinking they can take on U.S. governance at being losers and suckers for the tRump who doesn't give a damned for anyone but for himself. This includes tRump who will lead all of his brainwashed suckers to either a early grave or a fast dash to prison and a destroyed reputation at being marked and noted somewhere as person's of un American interests to be observed for the rest of their stinking lives.
Also the following statements should prove that these gutter good ole proud boys should have been declared a imminent threat from the beginning and not just against the governor of Michigan but state and U.S. governance too. Do their asses smell that good to continue coddling and catering to these proud boy swine on society and their gutter enablers as a disgrace to Democracy, humanity and anything else of a civilized nature? "That member allegedly told the FBI that the group was considering killing police officers and agreed to become an informant.
But the involvement of that militia in the plot to kidnap the governor appears to be minimal as the group that is charged today allegedly discussed keeping the broader militia out of their actual plan."
Also the following statements should prove that these gutter good ole proud boys should have been declared a imminent threat from the beginning and not just against the governor of Michigan but state and U.S. governance too. Do their asses smell that good to continue coddling and catering to these proud boy swine on society and their gutter enablers as a disgrace to Democracy, humanity and anything else of a civilized nature? "That member allegedly told the FBI that the group was considering killing police officers and agreed to become an informant.
But the involvement of that militia in the plot to kidnap the governor appears to be minimal as the group that is charged today allegedly discussed keeping the broader militia out of their actual plan."
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The SPLC is a left wing hack organization.
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
No, it's a farse.
WHITE TRASH IS GOING TO JAIL FOR A LONG LONG TIME ...
MORE TO BE CHARGED
dont be so sure,,these groups are very protected
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
i condemn white supremacists........will you condemn antifa and BLM violence?.....
What are you going to do about it, Kunta, when I do? That's right, nothing. Just like every other time you make a demand. I don't answer to your kind.
You may not like what the SPLC says about right wing terrorists, but they are definitely not violent. They do studies, and make legal arguments.
PMS claims that comparing the Proud Boys to the Michigan Militia is like comparing Antifa to the SPLC. Antifa is willing to be violent, so which one of the right wing groups is like the SPLC unwilling to be violent?
Like I told your little friend, you may not like the things that the SPLC says, but they are not a violent organization, much less a terrorist organization. The Proud Boys, and the Michigan Militia are both violent terrorist organizations.
I condemn all political violence, including Antifa and BLM. I condemn BLM violence even more, because it harms a good movement.
So again, which right wing terrorist organization are you claiming is like SPLC?
They condone violence from groups like BLM and ANTIFA.
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
They're a lying organization.
The Proud Boys couldn't roll through my old neighborhood without getting their asses kicked. Violent organization my ass.
They just stand up to ANTIFA and take their lumps.
Does SPLC designate ANTIFA as a violent terrorist organization? Because ANTIFA most certainly is.
If SPLC does not, that means they are dishonest hacks.