Will Trump be Reelected via Electoral College or via 12th Amendment ?

[IBDaMann]

Ok, level with me. What do you seriously think Trump's chances are of flipping the election and serving a 2nd term?

Let's look at this rationally, and you tell me where I err.

The overwhelming evidence of massive election fraud has been shown to the State assemblies of six States: Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia. This has already happened and none of the evidence has been disputed.

The State legislatures now can decide to send the electors for Trump (they have plenary power to choose who they send to vote) or they can simply "abstain" from voting (they have plenary power to choose whether they even want to vote).

A) If they choose the former, Trump wins the electoral college vote.

B) If they choose the latter and therefore no candidate achieves 270 electoral votes on 6 January, then Mike Pence acts as President until the House of Representatives decides the Presidency via the 12th Amendment. Under this scenario, each State receives one vote and Trump wins roughly 30-20.

C) There is no option C.

Hence the title of this thread: Will Trump be Reelected via Electoral College or via 12th Amendment ? Remember, I want your honest answer because I'm gonna refer back to this post on January 21st and see if you guessed correctly. Let's see if you got the rocks to answer. I say you don't.

 

[Micawber]

Ok, level with me. What do you seriously think Trump's chances are of flipping the election and serving a 2nd term?

Remember, I want your honest answer because I'm gonna refer back to this post on January 21st.

Let's see if you got the rocks to answer. I say you don't.

That's actually a silly question. Then he will say something new and move the goalposts. He was guaranteeing we would be having this discussion.
My advice, don't talk to insane hateful people. Just mock them.

 

[IBDaMann]

Besting you is a low bar. Any competent sixth grader could destroy you in this particular 'debate'.

Too funny. You're drooling on your shoe.

 

[Micawber]

That moment ARRIVED eight days ago. You lose. We win.

"superficial processes" you know, like voting.

 

[IBDaMann]

That moment ARRIVED eight days ago. You lose. We win.

You have dug your snowflake safe-space into a time warp in which January 6th was somehow eight days ago and Biden somehow prevailed.

I hate to drag the light of day into your snowflake refuge but Jan 6th has not happened yet. I don't know what else to tell you.

On January 6th, Trump will become President-elect either through the Electoral College or via the 12th Amendment. All I asked in the OP was which one you believe it will be. Unfortunately, I cannot get a single Leftist snowflake to emerge from his safe-space and tell me which one he thinks is the likelier of the two because their abject fear of Trump winning makes reality too painful for them and thus the only workable option for them is total denial.

Sad.

 

[Into the Night]

The VP has a vote in case of a tie in the Senate. The Senate is not involved in the House choosing the president.

I never said it did. Pay attention.

Not true. Look at your history. When voting in the House it sometimes took multiple ballots.

Irrelevance fallacy. They only vote once if choosing a President.

If they only vote once and no candidate wins a majority there is no president.

There will be a majority.

That leaves no solution to the problem. That is why they vote until they pick a president.

They only vote once.

I doubt it, but I did not say they cannot. I said they will not.

Lie. you said they States cannot change their electors. They can. Several States are already preparing to do so, including GA.

Very remotely possible. Choosing the president will not go to the House because on January 6 the House will keep voting on any objections until they are all voted down and then certify the electoral vote.

The House does not have that authority. See Article I, II, and the 12th amendment.

I'm never desperate.

Lie. You are desperate.

I just do not want to see a coup overturning a legal election because the Trump supporters were duped into believing there was widespread voter fraud.

The Constitution is not a coup. There was no legal election. The electoral college hasn't voted yet. There was widespread election fraud. Election fraud is not voter fraud. Doublespeak.

The Texas lawsuit did not follow the Constitution.

Yes it did. Texas had standing to file such a lawsuit.

The Supreme Court is given original jurisdiction in disputes between states.

That is correct.

There was no such dispute.

Yes there was, idiot.

instead, the Texas case tried to intervene in the internal affairs of other states.

No, it didn't. Obviously, you never read the complaint.

The Constitution clearly gives those states the right to govern their own elections.

The defendants did not govern their own elections. The election officers broke State election laws. Governors broke State election laws.

 

[IBDaMann]

My advice, don't talk to anyone [asking about reality]. Just [flee to your snowflake safe-space and dream of something non-threatening]

Be careful, your tail is between your legs and you might trip.

 

[Into the Night]

The electoral college has voted. That part is done. The Jan.6th vote is a formality.

It is not done. The vote is on Jan 6th. So far seven States have filed Contested.

 

[Into the Night]

You should really reconsider meth rehab. Again.

The Constitution is not meth.

 

[Into the Night]

The path involves a prison cell and a big dude named Bubba.

YAVC

 

[NiftyNiblick]

IBDaMann be just another brainless trumpanzee.
He's not being petulant. He's genuinely stupid enough to really think that the orange blob's presidency will be preserved.
There are 74,000,000 troglodytes crawling around who are no smarter than he.

Are we going to "come together" with them?
Why not just use all of our nukes on ourselves instead?

 

[Into the Night]

So why did we bother to have an election if none of the votes counted?

Some States never had an election. They had an episode of election fraud. Election fraud is not an election.

Wouldn't it just be easier to put your authoritarian urges on full display, eliminate all elections, and have Trump appoint all government officials? Why the charade?

Trump doesn't appoint all government officials. You seem to be hallucinating again. Put down the bong.

 

[Into the Night]

One of America's selling points was our peaceful transfer of power after an election. That is one thing, among others, what we claimed made us different from some other countries. Presidential candidates accepted the loss like gentlemen. Even in close and disputed elections, presidents conceded and did what they thought was best for the country. That is not a factor, on what Trump calls, thinking. He thinks only about himself. He knows there are legal cases brewing. He also knows the presidency shielded him.

Denial of history. Note that Democrats and Hillary never accepted the loss in 2016.

 

[Into the Night]

This thread (if it's not intended to be funny) illustrates how Trumpworld profits from the low intelligence of its members. Ordinary people are at home with election reality by now.

Denial of the Constitution.

 

[IBDaMann]

It's probably less than 1% who still think Trump will be potus.

Thank you. Your Marxist gibberish wouldn't be complete without a brazen attempt to pretend the majority is in the minority and to pretend the lunatic fringe minority (such as yourself) are somehow in the majority.

You checked the box. Thank you again.

Now go back to your delusional safe-space until you have to self-immolate on 6 January.

 

[Into the Night]

We didn't.

You referred to a path to a prison cell in this discussion about the 2020 election. That could only mean Biden.
You are aware that what his son did in the Ukraine and China is illegal, and Biden's benefiting from it is also illegal, right? You are aware that conducting election fraud is illegal, right? That's Biden and Democrats doing that.

 

[Into the Night]

No. Politicians lack the balls to do the right thing. Far easier just to go along...

It's not possible to 'just go along' and hide from this.

 

[IBDaMann]

So will you be committing suicide by gun or poison?

Have you given any thought to how you are going to explain your totally WACKY belief that the earth can somehow spontaneously increase in temperature without any additional energy? I think that if you are going to comment in a thread that everyone should be forewarned that you are a total idiot who thinks he's a genius, that you are scientifically illiterate and mathematically incompetent yet somehow believe that you are qualified to bully others into believing your WILD physics violations.

Have you given any thought to how you are going to explain your theory that the Stefan-Boltzmann law, which applies to all matter, always, everywhere, ... nonetheless somehow doesn't apply to earth? I think that if you are going to comment in a thread that everyone should be forewarned that the only positions you hold are those that you have been ordered to hold by your political slavemasters and that you should never be asked to support your ZANY views because you cannot.

Of course it's only fitting that you also support Biden.

Have a great day.

 

[IBDaMann]

The plain fact is this vote has never resulted in an overthrow of a single state vote.

Wrong tense. You can't use the present perfect. No State has voted. January 6th hasn't occurred yet.

If a state vote comes out differently than recorded,

You are slow, there's no doubt about that.

Once again, the State legislatures have plenary power and can change their minds every hour on the hour until January 6th. You are under some strange mistaken impression that some procedure somehow has the power to override the State legislature's plenary power under the Constitution.

Perhaps you should focus your efforts on disspelling that misconception in your own mind. Until then you're doomed to wandering in a haze of confusion.

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[gemini104104]

For a while it was looking like certain contested States were simply going to punt and just abstain from sending electors, thus denying either candidate the 270 electoral votes needed to win and sending the vote to the House whereby Trump would win by a lopsided 31-20 margin.

But lately, it's beginning to look like some of those contested States are going to do the right thing and flip back to Trump thus giving him the 270 electoral votes to win outright.

If I had to bet, ... I'm still not sure which path will take Trump to his second term.

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Actually the lawlessly hacked in fake President and Putin's b!tch tRump has already been elected to get thrown out of the currently contaminated White House based on the sealed and certified will of the historical over 81 million voter, and to eventually end up in hell as a elected official to meet the eternal flames of hell fire, and that goes for his un American ass kissers too.