“Trump won’t say the one thing that could really calm down his followers”

Into the Night said:
NONE of them were thrown out of any court.
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Get real, if you ran ads in papers and on line you could get nine hundred people to attest to nearly anything

And still don’t have a rebuttal to the facts;

On one side there are local and state election officials, both parties, Governors, both parties, nonpartisan confirmation committees, over sixty Judges, state and federal, the GSO, the NHS, and Trump own personal fixer, twice, said that the election was fair and transparent

And on the other side we have Trump, only Trump, regurgitating debunked lies and fabrications
 
archives said:
The very lie that Trump employed to mobilize the MAGA militia to storm the Capital, and one which he could retract today to prevent any further violence or loss of life from occurring this next week

But that takes courage and honesty, two traits not valued in the Trump universe, nor seemingly on the right these days
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MAGA is not a militia. MAGA is not the ones that brought the hammers, the saps, the bricks, the fireworks to use again police, etc.; Antifa/BLM did. MAGA is not who was breaking windows and doors. Antifa/BLM did. MAGA is not who is attacking police. Antifa/BLM did.
You have neither courage nor honesty nor legitimacy. You are a liar.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
I think his reasoning goes like this: "I can never lose, therefore I must have won. I can't find any evidence, but that just shows how devilish those people are."

Otoh, maybe he knows in some corner of his mind that it's a pack of lies. It's hard to tell with that guy.

Whatever, he is risking serious damage to the American body politic ALL FOR THE SAKE OF HIS EGO. That's what (a minority of) people chose four years ago. A lot of other people could see it coming; and it duly came.
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This isn't about Trump. This is about Democrats lying, lying, lying. This is about the oligarchy they are converting the federal government into. This is about the suppression.

You do not recognize the Constitution of the United States.

You suppress speech. You ban guns and other weapons. You convict without trial. You commit election fraud. You want to ban some religions while promoting others as state religions. You want courts and Congress to have no restrictions. You stand for government interference with markets and the economy. That is the very definition of fascism.

Fuck you. Fuck Biden. Fuck the SOA. Fuck your oligarchy. Fuck your government.

The States and the people are already standing up against you. Your own infighting has already started, and Biden hasn't even been installed as Prime Minister yet.
 
Sailor said:
Yes. The second impeachment.
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Well, "evidence" and "witnesses" are presented during the trial, which is held by the Senate. The House's role is to present articles of impeachment, and if impeached, the House sends these articles to the Senate. According to Senate rules, the trial is supposed to begin exactly one day after the articles have been delivered.

Here is the full text of the article of impeachment brought against Trump:

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Article_of_Impeachment_against_Donald_J._Trump_(2021)
 
archives said:
Get real, if you ran ads in papers and on line you could get nine hundred people to attest to nearly anything

And still don’t have a rebuttal to the facts;

On one side there are local and state election officials, both parties, Governors, both parties, nonpartisan confirmation committees, over sixty Judges, state and federal, the GSO, the NHS, and Trump own personal fixer, twice, said that the election was fair and transparent

And on the other side we have Trump, only Trump, regurgitating debunked lies and fabrications
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You have State legislatures that say the election never took place because of election fraud.
Parties do not choose the electoral college. Governors do not choose electoral college. Committees do not choose electoral college. Judges do not choose electoral college. The federal government does not choose electoral college. You deny the Constitution of the United States Article II and the 12th and 20th amendments.
 
Into the Night said:
MAGA is not a militia. MAGA is not the ones that brought the hammers, the saps, the bricks, the fireworks to use again police, etc.; Antifa/BLM did. MAGA is not who was breaking windows and doors. Antifa/BLM did. MAGA is not who is attacking police. Antifa/BLM did.
You have neither courage nor honesty nor legitimacy. You are a liar.
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“Antifa,” got it, must be the FBI is wrong, and Congressman McCarthy was lying when he said “it was MAGA, I know, I was there”

https://www.businessinsider.com/kev...insurrection-was-maga-not-antifa-axios-2021-1
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/01/08/fbi-no-evidence-antifa-involved-in-capitol-chaos/
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...8-capitol-riots-electoral-vote-count-n1253384
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/08/fbi-says-no-indication-that-antifa-took-part-in-us-capitol-riot.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...facial-recognition-antifa-capitol/6580679002/
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/ther...-part-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/35145385

It was the MAGA militia

And, still ain’t seen the rebuttal to the facts:

On one side there are local and state election officials, both parties, Governors, both parties, nonpartisan confirmation committees, over sixty Judges, state and federal, the GSO, the NHS, and Trump own personal fixer, twice, said that the election was fair and transparent

And on the other side we have Trump, only Trump, regurgitating debunked lies and fabrications
 
Michael_Panetta said:
Well, "evidence" and "witnesses" are presented during the trial, which is held by the Senate. The House's role is to present articles of impeachment, and if impeached, the House sends these articles to the Senate. According to Senate rules, the trial is supposed to begin exactly one day after the articles have been delivered.

Here is the full text of the article of impeachment brought against Trump:

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Article_of_Impeachment_against_Donald_J._Trump_(2021)
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Accusations are not evidence. Try again.
 
Michael_Panetta said:
Well, "evidence" and "witnesses" are presented during the trial, which is held by the Senate. The House's role is to present articles of impeachment, and if impeached, the House sends these articles to the Senate. According to Senate rules, the trial is supposed to begin exactly one day after the articles have been delivered.

Here is the full text of the article of impeachment brought against Trump:

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Article_of_Impeachment_against_Donald_J._Trump_(2021)
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There was nothing called but a bullshit vote for this second impeachment Mike. Democrats have once taken something very serious and made it into a sham. Just like racism.
 
Sailor said:
There was nothing called but a bullshit vote for this second impeachment Mike. Democrats have once taken something very serious and made it into a sham. Just like racism.
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No. Trump took something very serious--his duties as POTUS--and made it into a sham. Unless you can even be bothered to read the single article of impeachment against Trump, you really aren't informed enough to criticize it.
 
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Into the Night said:
You have State legislatures that say the election never took place because of election fraud.
Parties do not choose the electoral college. Governors do not choose electoral college. Committees do not choose electoral college. Judges do not choose electoral college. The federal government does not choose electoral college. You deny the Constitution of the United States Article II and the 12th and 20th amendments.
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States have vote certification guidelines established previously via statue approved upon by the State Legislatives. All of the States sent their certified electoral vote results by December 20th via this established process. You are wrong again, and still no rebuttal to the facts:

On one side there are local and state election officials, both parties, Governors, both parties, nonpartisan confirmation committees, over sixty Judges, state and federal, the GSO, the NHS, and Trump own personal fixer, twice, said that the election was fair and transparent

And on the other side we have Trump, only Trump, regurgitating debunked lies and fabrications
 
Sailor said:
There was zero evidence or witnesses for this impeachment. None. Feel free to prove your theory.
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“The president of the United States summoned this mob, assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this attack. Everything that followed was his doing.” - Liz Cheney
 
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