Can you impeach a former president ?

Hello Walt,

Walt said:
I used to fear I would go from Alzheimer's, but then I realized I love to watch TV, and never have the time to do it... Maybe that would work, and maybe not.
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I think the trick to avoid Alzheimer's is to continue to try new things that challenge the mind. If you let yourself fall into too much of a steady routine with no new mental challenge then you stop testing your brain to develop those new synapses.

Things that you've always done don't expand your mind.

When Glen Campbell began to lose touch with reality and unable to retain any short term memory, he was still able to play excellent music. He even went on tour and created his final recordings after his diagnosis.
 
Hello Althea,

Althea said:
On top of that you can stack the severe stress he's suffering right now because his delusions re. being adored by everyone are being destroyed. He honestly cannot believe that he isn't the beloved character that his family pretends (for the inheritance) that he is. That alone will kill him unless he gets to hold Klan rallies with his adoring fans.

Unfortunately, he has to pay for them now.
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He still has a strong following that would probably pay to hear him at this point.

If we recall, he went from "I am going to self-finance my entire campaign, so you won't even have to donate, and you know I won't be selling out to big money corporations" to "Donate now, help stop the steal."

Seems like it would be child's play to go from "Free rally tickets" to "Trump rally, only $20 a ticket. Hear the original American freedom fighter in person. VISA, Mastercard, PayPal, until venue sold out. Secure your seat now. Be a part of remaking America great again again."
 
Hello Nordberg,

Nordberg said:
If Trump had to testify in person, we would not have to make a rule banning him from office. He would show who he is to the masses.
However, we are entering unexplored territory with this procedure. Trump has been impeached the second time. That part is over. But we do not know a lot of things that are coming up. Trump is not the president. The chief justice "runs" a presidential impeachment. Does he sit over an ex-president's trial? Nothing about this is defined. They will probably have to meet and iron out the procedures before they begin.
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Good point.
 
Althea said:
NYC doesn't want him. Mar A Lago isn't a viable option legally. He can purchase that property in a Fla. gated community that Javanka did. Maybe they'll give him a good price?

Because that community doesn't allow Jews...or despots.

Maybe the pillow monger will set up a spread for him in that Chinese pillow factory?
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It depends on the wording of the contract in Mar-A-Lago. Since all of the stuff he stole from the WH is being moved into MAL, I suspect he plans on living there.

What I'm curious about is if any moving vans are parked outside Trump Tower, mostly with hat and shoe boxes. ;)
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch Uncle,

Yeah, but it has to be processing new information. Insult contests do not qualify.
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Just the activity is good, but I agree actually processing new ideas and information is the best way to minimize loss of brain function. Learning a new craft or skill is better.
 
Before I leave I'd like PIMP to know that he is the fucking dumbest poster on the board, and that's saying a lot.;)
Damn, that guy never says anything interesting or witty even by accident.
 
Hello Althea,

Althea said:
NYC doesn't want him. Mar A Lago isn't a viable option legally. He can purchase that property in a Fla. gated community that Javanka did. Maybe they'll give him a good price?

Because that community doesn't allow Jews...or despots.

Maybe the pillow monger will set up a spread for him in that Chinese pillow factory?
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Ivanka and Jared are Jews. If the community in which they just bought doesn't allow Jews, the just broke their own rules.
 
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Son of the Revolution said:
so all you commie fucks want to silence someone....View attachment 18783
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Nope, just the ones that spread lies about a pandemic that costs people their lives, and those that claim an election was stolen without the slightest thread of facts to back that up, and those that spread traitorous calls for rebellion against the USA.
Thing is they are not being silenced and their 1st A rights are still in place, but one cannot expect is that those that own private social media sites to be forced to allow people to use their platform to spread their lies and treason, plus they are still free to use one that allows it.
I am a firm believer in the 1st A, and I also believe that while we are guaranteed the right to free speech we are not guaranteed that there will be no consequences for having exercised that right to speak.
 
CASPER said:
Nope, just the ones that spread lies about a pandemic that costs people their lives, and those that claim an election was stolen without the slightest thread of facts to back that up, and those that spread traitorous calls for rebellion against the USA.
Thing is they are not being silenced and their 1st A rights are still in place, but one cannot expect is that those that own private social media sites to be forced to allow people to use their platform to spread their lies and treason, plus they are still free to use one that allows it.
I am a firm believer in the 1st A, and I also believe that while we are guaranteed the right to free speech we are not guaranteed that there will be no consequences for having exercised that right to speak.
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you fucking liberals started this virus... you fucking liberals started this violence this past summer using antifa and blm...
you fuckers do realize that without the 2nd you don't have the first...
 
Son of the Revolution said:
you fucking liberals started this virus... you fucking liberals started this violence this past summer using antifa and blm...
you fuckers do realize that without the 2nd you don't have the first...
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Nope the virus originated in China and we have done a dismal job of dealing with it. No one from the Left stormed the Capital or tried stopping the Congress from fulfilling their duty to uphold the Constitution and thus committed an act of Sedition .
I am a firm believer in the 2nd and probably own more firearms than you or the Vast majority of posters on this site, so much for that BS.
Now run along and go live in your fantasy world.
 
CASPER said:
Nope the virus originated in China and we have done a dismal job of dealing with it. No one from the Left stormed the Capital or tried stopping the Congress from fulfilling their duty to uphold the Constitution and thus committed an act of Sedition .
I am a firm believer in the 2nd and probably own more firearms than you or the Vast majority of posters on this site, so much for that BS.
Now run along and go live in your fantasy world.
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you are a pussyboy lying POS coward... liberals started this shit... we will see who finishes it!!!
 
Walt said:
Congress has the right to give US citizenship to whoever they want. They gave citizenship to William Penn, a man who died nearly a century before the US was founded, and showed no interest in having any other citizenship other than English. It was a silly, meaningless gesture... But completely constitutional. Even beyond being constitutional, because it is so absurd, and meaningless, the Supreme Court will not touch it. They do not bother with rules until they have a real world effect.

So what happens if William Penn is impeached. Reminder, he is dead, did not want to be an American, nor hold any American office, did not even know the United States would exist, etc. If you wanted to challenge that in court, you would have to convince the Supreme Court to take on a case of no meaning. Which they will not do.

trump has meaning. trump could run in 2024, so impeachment would take that away. So he would have to go to the Supreme Court, claim Congress acted absurdly, and then reverse the claim and say it had great meaning. It is not for the Supreme Court to review whether the actions of Congress are good or not, so they cannot review whether trump should be banned from running in 2024.
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Of course the SC can review it if they choose to review it. The SC, not Congress, decides what actions taken pursuant to The Constitution will or won't be reviewed.

What do you suppose would happen if the Senate convicted Trump, banning him from running again, on the theory that the Removal Clause applies not only to sitting Presidents
but also to former Presidents when impeached before they left office? (This by the way is what distinguishes Trump from the other former Presidents I brought up). Trump would appeal is what would happen.

The SC would then lay down the law on the question we are debating and the Senate would suck it up. Could get the result it wanted or maybe not.
 
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