Obama says reparations 'justified'

I'VE ALREADY PAID REPARATIONS TO EVERY SLAVE I'VE EVER OWNED.


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Hearings are currently being held for the reparations legislation. The bill, which has been around for years, does not provide for reparations but creates a commission to study the issue.
 
Wolverine said:
I believe the west coast had the first cases!
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The first case was an American who travelled to China and then came back here.

So it wasn't China that gave us our 1st COVID case, it was an American who travelled to China, was infected there, and then brought it to the US.

So China didn't give us COVID, we gave it to ourselves.
 
Jack said:
'Reparations' is all in the details.
Like 'who pays?'
And 'who gets?'

If you are a descendant of Union Soldiers that may have lost a limb or life in the Civil War, do YOU pay?
If you are a descendant of a Black slave holder, do you get something ... because you are 'Black'?
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It gets worse than that. If your ancestors (or even you) immigrated to the US post 1865, do you pay? Should anyone who is "Black" or whatever that immigrated to the US post 1865-ish be given "reparations?" What about Blacks or other minorities who were here pre-1865 that were never slaves to begin with? What about those who might have been slaves but never were by escaping, etc.?

The problem here is that those being rewarded were never slaves themselves, and many may not even have ancestors who were. At the same time, those who were never slave holders / owners would be forced to pay these reparations for something they didn't do, and their ancestors likely never did either. What kind of totally fucked up system of injustice would allow something like that to occur?

Would Obama be eligible for such reparations being the son of a White woman and a Black Kenyan who wasn't a US citizen?
 
Extremely easy to justify. Arguments are very simple to erect, taking them out are simple to rebut.

Here's a quick salvo: If people can inherit wealth, (a sacred institution), how can you argue the wealth disparity created by racism in the past should not be corrected by wealth transfer today.

I'll be waiting, peons.
 
Micawber said:
Extremely easy to justify. Arguments are very simple to erect, taking them out are simple to rebut.

Here's a quick salvo: If people can inherit wealth, (a sacred institution), how can you argue the wealth disparity created by racism in the past should not be corrected by wealth transfer today.

I'll be waiting, peons.
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Easy, even the poorer blacks are much richer than if they stayed in Africa. Also it was black tribes that sold the slaves so quite rightly they should pay reparations. Lastly only slaves and their immediate descendants should receive them.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It gets worse than that. If your ancestors (or even you) immigrated to the US post 1865, do you pay? Should anyone who is "Black" or whatever that immigrated to the US post 1865-ish be given "reparations?" What about Blacks or other minorities who were here pre-1865 that were never slaves to begin with? What about those who might have been slaves but never were by escaping, etc.?

The problem here is that those being rewarded were never slaves themselves, and many may not even have ancestors who were. At the same time, those who were never slave holders / owners would be forced to pay these reparations for something they didn't do, and their ancestors likely never did either. What kind of totally fucked up system of injustice would allow something like that to occur?

Would Obama be eligible for such reparations being the son of a White woman and a Black Kenyan who wasn't a US citizen?
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I think that rich bastards like McSlobber should give up his property to a poor black and the land to the Indian tribe that it was taken from!
 
Stone said:
They didnt. Only in the south. What about the whole rest of the country? And even then it was just labor. Blacks were deprived education back then. They didnt have the math skills and education level to draw up bluprints and understand them. The labor was HUGE,....but without the know how it is almost useless.
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The African tribes that sold the slaves to traders should pay for reparations! Actually the majority of blacks from Africa would never have reached the US if they hadn't been sold, they would have been killed instead.
 
Stone said:
WTF are you talking about you moron? I said that slaves were denied an education and that it was wrong to do that to them. You dont seem to have the ability to think, or type, or much of anything really. You should probably just shut your ignorant mouth up and stop embarrassing yourself.
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She's a hustler who never ever talks about anything but racism. Think of Queen Latifah in real life, only more porcine and noisier.
 
Primavera said:
I think that rich bastards like McSlobber should give up his property to a poor black and the land to the Indian tribe that it was taken from!
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Reparations? Hell yeah! My great-grandfather fought for the Union. He won the freedom for slaves, therefore they should pay me reparations because my ancestor fought for their freedom. Pay up, bitches...
 
Cypress said:
Obama left office with a 60 percent approval rating, is widely acknowledged as a consequential and important president -- and he is so popular voters decided to give him a third term, in effect and by proxy, by electing his vice president to the oval office.

The wealth of this nation was built in large part on the backs of slaves and the confiscation of lands from indigenous people. We might as well be honest about it. I do not know what the proper response is, but since institutional bigotry still exists 150 after the civil war ended, it is probably worth a sober discussion
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How long have we been saying “sober discussion “ over this BS? It never gets anywhere. Like Jack says, who pays? Who gets?
I propose a drunken discussion.
 
dukkha said:
what a fuckwad..
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-springsteen-podcast-reparations-white-resistance

he former president claimed that a reparations proposal didn’t make its way through the lawmaking process during his presidency due to "the politics of White resistance and resentment."

"And what I saw during my presidency was the politics of White resistance and resentment. The talk of 'welfare queens' and the talk of the 'undeserving' poor. And the backlash against affirmative action," Obama said.

"All that made the prospect of actually proposing any kind of coherent, meaningful reparations program struck me as, politically, not only a nonstarter but potentially counterproductive."

REP. BURGESS OWENS: 'UNFAIR AND HEARTLESS' FOR DEMOCRATS TO RAISE BLACK AMERICANS' HOPES FOR REPARATIONS

Obama went on to say it was "perfectly understandable why working-class White folks, middle-class White folks, folks who are having trouble paying the bills or dealing with student loans, wouldn't be too thrilled" about the prospect of "a massive program that is designed to deal with the past but isn't speaking to their future."

Obama appears to have changed his position on reparations over the years. He opposed reparations during his 2008 presidential campaign, arguing that "the best reparations we can provide are good schools in the inner city and jobs for people who are unemployed."
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Why doesn’t he propose who pays? Yeah, I know why.
 
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