Half a million dead......some hoax Rs

[LV426]

the most masked states and organizations have had the greatest numbers of new cases. Question: if a person does not have covid how can he/she spread it? If your mask protects you why do I need one? If your mask does not protect you, why wear it? Wake up idiot, this is not about disease control, its about people control. If they can scare you into wearing a mask . they can scare you into anything. Are you really willing to become a nothing, no identity, no individuality, just one of the flock?

^THIS MORON HERE SHEEPLED HIMSELF INTO A VACCINE

 

[redfish]

The only reason anyone's case count went up was because of holiday travel that we were advised against doing.

50M people traveled over Thanksgiving. That's why the cases shot up.




North Dakota and South Dakota are #1 and #3 in the world for infection rate.

so, if people did not travel the case numbers would not have gone up? people are not traveling now and new cases are still coming in. there are very few people in ND and SD, so per capita counts mean nothing. NY and Cal have the most cases and are the most shut down. Explain that.

What is your opinion of Biden letting illegals in the country with covid and then turning them loose to go wherever they want in this country?

 

[redfish]

^THIS MORON HERE SHEEPLED HIMSELF INTO A VACCINE

Did you/ will you get it? Protecting yourself from any disease is not being a sheep, its being an intelligent human being. Its pretty sad how you libs try to twist everything to fit your hate filled failed ideology and your corrupt senile leaders.

 

[LV426]

so, if people did not travel the case numbers would not have gone up?

Yeah. Pretty much.

people are not traveling now and new cases are still coming in.

Right because people like you are going out and doing everything you can to proliferate the pandemic.

We aren't seeing 200,000 new cases a day like we were in January because people stopped travelling.

there are very few people in ND and SD, so per capita counts mean nothing

Ah, so if sparsely populated areas like ND and SD have record high infection rates, that should tell you something about how those states handled COVID.

Because by all accounts, ND and SD should have among the LOWEST infection rates in the world because of how sparsely populated it is, and how it's not congested like NY or CA.

Yet, SD and ND have higher infection rates than New York.

NY and Cal have the most cases and are the most shut down.

The shutdowns don't work if not everyone participates in them. They're only going to be as effective as the least responsible person. And despite that, CA and NY have lower infection rates than almost every other red state.

What is your opinion of Biden letting illegals in the country with covid and then turning them loose to go wherever they want in this country?

This is a lie.

What is your opinion of people who go on anonymous message boards, create multiple accounts, and source only propagandist links? Cuz my opinion of those people is in the shitter.

 

[redfish]

Because of social distancing and masks, so the flu didn't have a chance to spread.

So...thanks for reminding everyone that lockdowns and masks work to stop the spread of disease, you goofball.

then why didn't we lock down every fall when the flu was killing 50-60 K people every year? You defeated your own argument, goofball. you said masks and lockdowns stop the spread of disease, then you rant about how the covid numbers keep going up even though we are masking and locking down.

But the states that have lifted mask mandates have no higher rates or new cases than the ones totally shut down. cal and ny are still the highest in cases and the most shut down.

you lost the argument a while ago but you persist in making a complete fool of yourself. Is Pelosi your role model?

 

[LV426]

Did you/ will you get it? Protecting yourself from any disease is not being a sheep, its being an intelligent human being. Its pretty sad how you libs try to twist everything to fit your hate filled failed ideology and your corrupt senile leaders.

Oh, I'm getting the vaccine and I'm not a hypocrite for doing so because I wasn't the one who spent a whole year under a different sock, trying to convince people COVID was a hoax that was no worse than the flu.

But you did that. Which makes your rush to get vaccinated that much more baffling...

Why would you vaccinate yourself against something that is no worse than the flu?

And why would you vaccinate yourself against the flu, if it's not that big a deal?

You spent 12 months trying to convince everyone that COVID was a hoax...yet, you didn't even convince yourself of that because you jumped to be one of the first vaccinated.

So you're just a hypocrite and a liar.

 

[redfish]

Yeah. Pretty much.




Right because people like you are going out and doing everything you can to proliferate the pandemic.

We aren't seeing 200,000 new cases a day like we were in January because people stopped travelling.




Ah, so if sparsely populated areas like ND and SD have record high infection rates, that should tell you something about how those states handled COVID.

Because by all accounts, ND and SD should have among the LOWEST infection rates in the world because of how sparsely populated it is, and how it's not congested like NY or CA.

Yet, SD and ND have higher infection rates than New York.




The shutdowns don't work if not everyone participates in them. They're only going to be as effective as the least responsible person. And despite that, CA and NY have lower infection rates than almost every other red state.




This is a lie.

What is your opinion of people who go on anonymous message boards, create multiple accounts, and source only propagandist links? Cuz my opinion of those people is in the shitter.

on the last point, last week 138 illegals entered the country after testing positive for covid. then they were signed in and released with a court date that they will never meet.

Why do you approve of illegals being let into the country with diseases and drugs for your kids?

 

[LV426]

then why didn't we lock down every fall when the flu was killing 50-60 K people every year?

Because hospitals weren't overrun and capacity was never maxed out.

So there was no need to do that for the flu annually.

But COVID killed 10x that many people, and overloaded our hospitals with far more.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

the most masked states and organizations have had the greatest numbers of new cases. Question: if a person does not have covid how can he/she spread it? If your mask protects you why do I need one? If your mask does not protect you, why wear it? Wake up idiot, this is not about disease control, its about people control. If they can scare you into wearing a mask . they can scare you into anything. Are you really willing to become a nothing, no identity, no individuality, just one of the flock?

I trust the Navy's policy over your opinion. Facts please. I proved to you the Navy has been taking this serious for over a year.

Why are you just spouting the same opinions from politicians? Where are your facts?

its not ok to create your own set of "facts".

 

[LV426]

You defeated your own argument, goofball.

No I didn't, you asshole, I defeated YOUR ARGUMENT.

The reason we didn't lock down for 50-60K flu deaths annually is because those deaths were spread out over the course of the year, and COVID killed 10 TIMES as many people and put far more in the hospitals, which caused them to exceed capacity. We didn't exceed capacity in hospitals for the flu for the last ten years.

You should do some research into this because all you're doing here is giving me the opportunity to dunk on you.

 

[redfish]

Oh, I'm getting the vaccine and I'm not a hypocrite for doing so because I wasn't the one who spent a whole year under a different sock, trying to convince people COVID was a hoax that was no worse than the flu.

But you did that. Which makes your rush to get vaccinated that much more baffling...

Why would you vaccinate yourself against something that is no worse than the flu?

And why would you vaccinate yourself against the flu, if it's not that big a deal?

You spent 12 months trying to convince everyone that COVID was a hoax...yet, you didn't even convince yourself of that because you jumped to be one of the first vaccinated.

So you're just a hypocrite and a liar.

I never used another user name. I joined this board after the election. I was on USMB for years and made a bet with another poster that I would leave if Biden won and he would leave if Trump won. I left, but I don't think he would have. Liberals are basically dishonest.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

then why didn't we lock down every fall when the flu was killing 50-60 K people every year? You defeated your own argument, goofball. you said masks and lockdowns stop the spread of disease, then you rant about how the covid numbers keep going up even though we are masking and locking down.

But the states that have lifted mask mandates have no higher rates or new cases than the ones totally shut down. cal and ny are still the highest in cases and the most shut down.

you lost the argument a while ago but you persist in making a complete fool of yourself. Is Pelosi your role model?

Dude, again with your factless opinions.

Your "flu" argument is specious since 1) there's a vaccine and 2) there are multiple treatments for flu. COVID was novel virus with no known cure until recently.

Do you understand the difference between 50-60K dead in a year versus 525K dead in a year, son?

 

[redfish]

No I didn't, you asshole, I defeated YOUR ARGUMENT.

The reason we didn't lock down for 50-60K flu deaths annually is because those deaths were spread out over the course of the year, and COVID killed 10 TIMES as many people and put far more in the hospitals, which caused them to exceed capacity. We didn't exceed capacity in hospitals for the flu for the last ten years.

You should do some research into this because all you're doing here is giving me the opportunity to dunk on you.

many of the deaths coded as covid were really caused by other things like heart disesae, emphysema, cancer, diabetes, and others. They were coded covid because a covid death pays more to the hospital.

 

[jet57]

Your lies killed people

Good post.

Yeah I've been telling those guys that in the Civil War we lost 662,000 people. They didn't seem impressed.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I never used another user name. I joined this board after the election. I was on USMB for years and made a bet with another poster that I would leave if Biden won and he would leave if Trump won. I left, but I don't think he would have. Liberals are basically dishonest.

This forum is more fun that USMB...or a multitude of others out there I've been on over the past couple decades.

Political partisans are dishonest....and you are one of them.

many of the deaths coded as covid were really caused by other things like heart disesae, emphysema, cancer, diabetes, and others. They were coded covid because a covid death pays more to the hospital.

QED

 

[redfish]

Dude, again with your factless opinions.

Your "flu" argument is specious since 1) there's a vaccine and 2) there are multiple treatments for flu. COVID was novel virus with no known cure until recently.

Do you understand the difference between 50-60K dead in a year versus 525K dead in a year, son?

already explained and answered.

 

[LV426]

you said masks and lockdowns stop the spread of disease

Which they do and which they've done.

then you rant about how the covid numbers keep going up even though we are masking and locking down.

I'm not the one ranting about COVID numbers going up, YOU ARE IDIOT. That is your rant, not mine. Stop trying to hand your shitty arguments off to me.

But the states that have lifted mask mandates have no higher rates or new cases than the ones totally shut down.

First of all, they lifted those mandates last week...so it hasn't even been a full week yet.

Secondly, we know that it takes about 3-4 weeks for COVID cases to show up and get serious, so check in by mid-April and we'll see where everyone is at.

I suspect that by mid-April, most of the country will see lower cases while a handful of states see surges.

you lost the argument a while ago but you persist in making a complete fool of yourself. Is Pelosi your role model?

You don't get to win an argument simply by pretending you did.

 

[redfish]

This forum is more fun that USMB...or a multitude of others out there I've been on over the past couple decades.

Political partisans are dishonest....and you are one of them.

I agree that many partisans on both sides are dishonest. I post the truth and call out the liars on both sides. I refute the propaganda no matter who spreads it. the fact is that the left spreads much more of it because they have most of the media doing the spreading for them.

USMB is ok, but like this one, it has many posters who merely post the talking points of the day and never do any validity checking. I do my best to post the truth, you should try it.

 

[LV426]

on the last point, last week 138 illegals entered the country after testing positive for covid. then they were signed in and released with a court date that they will never meet.

Lies. All you do is post lies because debating in good faith isn't something you're capable of doing.

Why do you approve of illegals being let into the country with diseases and drugs for your kids?

When did you stop beating your wife?

 

[redfish]

yo, Dutch and LV

can we possibly do this without the juvenile insults?