AP Exclusive: Secret tally has 87,000 Iraqis dead

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AP Exclusive: Secret tally has 87,000 Iraqis dead


Apr 23, 12:56 PM (ET)

An in-depth AP review shows the total for the entire war exceeds 110,000 Iraqis. That figure is based on the government tally and counts of casualties from earlier years from hospital sources and media reports.

A government official shared the Iraqi death tally on condition of anonymity, providing the most authoritative accounting to date of the war's toll.

It still excludes thousands of people who are missing and civilians who were buried in the chaos of war without official notice.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090423/D97O9RI01.html

Of course the US military was specifically ordered not to keep count.
 
Only 87,000. I was hoping for an even 100,000.

Maybe they can just fudge the numbers to include all those ones we vaporized and no remains were found.
 
The toll of dead Iraqis far exceeds 87,000 or 110,000.

Study: War Blamed for 655,000 Iraqi Deaths

Coalition forces blamed for 31% of deaths since 2003 invasion.

BALTIMORE, Maryland (CNN) -- War has wiped out about 655,000 Iraqis or more than 500 people a day since the U.S.-led invasion, a new study reports.

Violence including gunfire and bombs caused the majority of deaths but thousands of people died from worsening health and environmental conditions directly related to the conflict that began in 2003, U.S. and Iraqi public health researchers said.

"Since March 2003, an additional 2.5 percent of Iraq's population have died above what would have occurred without conflict," according to the survey of Iraqi households, titled "The Human Cost of the War in Iraq
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/10/11/iraq.deaths/

Of course we may never know the full cost the Iraqi people will have to bear from our mindless misadventure because as you've said, we purposefully didn't count .. but we are getting a real good idea of how costly it was to this nation.
 
uscitizen said:
AP Exclusive: Secret tally has 87,000 Iraqis dead


Apr 23, 12:56 PM (ET)

An in-depth AP review shows the total for the entire war exceeds 110,000 Iraqis. That figure is based on the government tally and counts of casualties from earlier years from hospital sources and media reports.

A government official shared the Iraqi death tally on condition of anonymity, providing the most authoritative accounting to date of the war's toll.

It still excludes thousands of people who are missing and civilians who were buried in the chaos of war without official notice.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090423/D97O9RI01.html

Of course the US military was specifically ordered not to keep count.
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You know what's really sad is that over the same period of time more Americans died from automobile accidents and more than twice that many Americans died last year as a result of smoking.
 
blackascoal said:
The right-wing has control over yours.

Old rag? Does that mean the information is invalid?

How do you know it's invalid?

How many people did we kill?

What's your source?
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I call it that because that piece of rubbish was debunked back when it came out. When you pay people to come up with a big number, they do. There's this recurring theme I'm starting to notice... Personally, I think the Iraqi government is definitely more trustworthy with the number of their own dead than Soros.
 
Damocles said:
The difference is you wouldn't be posting it as something other than a nutter article.
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So what is the 'sensible' right actually saying? That 60,000 or 80,000 or 100,000 murders are OK but that 600,000 are not?
So Geoffrey Darmer is really a nice guy who should be released and taken on a church picnic?
Are you people completely mad?
 
Lowaicue said:
So what is the 'sensible' right actually saying? That 60,000 or 80,000 or 100,000 murders are OK but that 600,000 are not?
So Geoffrey Darmer is really a nice guy who should be released and taken on a church picnic?
Are you people completely mad?
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No, but one is sensationalized, while the other isn't. It's silly to take on every inane talking point just because it relates to your party or your political lean, especially when they are found to be propaganda pieces specifically made for the weak of mind.

While I was against the war, that doesn't mean I have to run around spouting whatever propaganda piece Soros pays for to express that view. (Of course I was against it for different reasons than most lefties, but it doesn't change what I believe.)

The stark reality is bad enough, no need to add faerie tales to make it sound worse than it is.

Like that idiotic Ward Churchill saying that the army gave infested blankets to the Native Americans. Native Americans have been about trying to end that particular lie, because once people find it to be a lie they are less inclined to believe the reality of crimes committed against them.
 
Yeah, that lancet study was debunked long ago. This number seems like it could be right if it is including people who died not only of violence but of other factors caused by our invasion - lack of potable water and such.
 
ib1yysguy said:
Yeah, that lancet study was debunked long ago. This number seems like it could be right if it is including people who died not only of violence but of other factors caused by our invasion - lack of potable water and such.
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Actually the report admits it is a bit short on the tally of dead.
 
ib1yysguy said:
Yeah, that lancet study was debunked long ago. This number seems like it could be right if it is including people who died not only of violence but of other factors caused by our invasion - lack of potable water and such.
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lack of potable water and such.....??? Sounds reasonable...how about 2,000,000 Iraqi deaths from lack of water....Most victims lived on the shores of the Tigris River....BAC would believe it ..... and a few others...:321:
 
How can we doubt the tally of a democratically elected government?

btw hei did say potable water. Not polluted river water.
 
uscitizen said:
AP Exclusive: Secret tally has 87,000 Iraqis dead


Apr 23, 12:56 PM (ET)

An in-depth AP review shows the total for the entire war exceeds 110,000 Iraqis. That figure is based on the government tally and counts of casualties from earlier years from hospital sources and media reports.

A government official shared the Iraqi death tally on condition of anonymity, providing the most authoritative accounting to date of the war's toll.

It still excludes thousands of people who are missing and civilians who were buried in the chaos of war without official notice.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090423/D97O9RI01.html

Of course the US military was specifically ordered not to keep count.
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Really ? thats quite a find, but I missed the link...or is this top secret that only you know about...? You and ....who? Maybe K. Obermann ?

No doubt Bush personally gave that order too....
 
uscitizen said:
How can we doubt the tally of a democratically elected government?

btw hei did say potable water. Not polluted river water.
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btw, he did say "lack of".....I don't think the "lack of" polluted river water caused any deaths.....lol:pke:
 
uscitizen said:
Yeah we need to get rid of that myth of the Trail of Tears as well.
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This is exactly the problem, some people refuse to believe the real stories when false stories are proffered and later found to be untrue.

But you can be as obtuse and deliberately miss my point as much as you wish. Grant's trail of tears is something we should have been ashamed of as a people, not make believe blankets with small pox.
 
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