ib1yysguy
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WTF is wrong with you Stirfry? You would think that such a stalwart anti-GW hawk would not buy into bogus science of any kind...
That's precisely why he is an anti-GW hawk.
WTF is wrong with you Stirfry? You would think that such a stalwart anti-GW hawk would not buy into bogus science of any kind...
I'd be really surprised if you could collapse a sky scraper and not wind up making aluminum and/or zinc and rust dust. Why this is so hard for you to imagine says more about your lack of imagination then about the plausibility of tens of tons of thermite burning for six weeks and nobody noticing.
Conversely, aluminum, iron, rust and other materials that may comprise thermite do not exist except when it is used to demolish a building, right AHZ?yes. Thermite is the natural state of all matter.
Conversely, aluminum, iron, rust and other materials that may comprise thermite do not exist except when it is used to demolish a building, right AHZ?
The problem is in choosing what is "amiss". Finding aluminum and iron, etc, in the aftermath of a total collapse of a building is not "amiss", pretending that there wasn't any of the material available in any other manner than what you want, or that there were more of the materials present (according to the very same reports that were given) than were expected from the building is where you go "amiss". The reports state that the levels were not at a level that was unexpected, you know the parts that Jones leaves out when he posts excerpts from the reports. Hence the reason I linked to the actual reports he was using.Or it could have been from welding torches used in the construction. Besides, anything that does seem amiss is explained by the "covering their own incompetence" theory, right damo?
The problem is in choosing what is "amiss". Finding aluminum and iron, etc, in the aftermath of a total collapse of a building is not "amiss", pretending that there wasn't any of the material available in any other manner than what you want, or that there were more of the materials present (according to the very same reports that were given) than were expected from the building is where you go "amiss". The reports state that the levels were not at a level that was unexpected, you know the parts that Jones leaves out when he posts excerpts from the reports. Hence the reason I linked to the actual reports he was using.
See the post directly above yours, there, Asshat... I'll even quote it here...yes. The form In which I want it to be... lol. You're a joke.
And what about your coverup of incompetence theory. Why are you unwilling to discuss it. Because it's just bullshit you throw out when you get nailed? Thought so.
Personally, I think that there could have been conspirators on the ground, part of the terrorist crew, that brought materials into the building in order to hasten its demise. However, because government employees wanted to cover their behinds I believe that evidence was not followed and we therefore will never know the full story.
I do know that the evidence doesn't support thermite usage, but that doesn't mean I have every answer.
Another question I have about that day. According to at least one witness at the Pentagon there were two planes approaching the building, but when the first hit the other veered off. What was the other plane doing? Is there any empirical evidence of its existence?
The joke is pretending that discovering common materials in dust proves anything about your "theory" (in the detective sense, not the scientific sense). When all the evidence pretty much points elsewhere, as in this case, it is time to turn your head and look elsewhere.yes. The form In which I want it to be... lol. You're a joke.
And what about your coverup of incompetence theory. Why are you unwilling to discuss it. Because it's just bullshit you throw out when you get nailed? Thought so.
The joke is pretending that discovering common materials in dust proves anything about your "theory" (in the detective sense, not the scientific sense). When all the evidence pretty much points elsewhere, as in this case, it is time to turn your head and look elsewhere.
Again, the converse statement is:Right. Everything is basically MADE of thermite. Everyone knows that! LOL
So what evidence points most to your 'coverup of incompetence' theory? Are you gonna punk out on this, yet again?
Again, the converse statement is:
These materials never exist except when magically produced by the thermite faerie.
Have you proof of the faerie?
Can I find sources of aluminum other than thermite in or anywhere around a building in NYC?
Aluminum is one of the common materials that is used to make thermite and part of the "evidence" that "Dr." Jones uses on his website.Aluminum is not thermit, is it?
Are you going to avoid discussing your 'coverup of incompetence' theory again.
Probably. It's to be expected.
Again, the converse statement is:
These materials never exist except when magically produced by the thermite faerie.
Have you proof of the faerie?
Can I find sources of aluminum other than thermite in or anywhere around a building in NYC?
Again, what I say I think happened isn't a "theory", it is an opinion. This idea that I think that government employees might have covered up their own incompetence by denying certain directions of investigation is an opinion.
Aluminum is not thermit, is it?
Are you going to avoid discussing your 'coverup of incompetence' theory again.
Probably. It's to be expected.
Aluminum is one of the common materials that is used to make thermite and part of the "evidence" that "Dr." Jones uses on his website.
I notice you continuously delete the portions of my conversation dealing with my opinions on the incompetence of government employees.
Right. That's what it was, a secret conspiracy against you.I generally quote you in full. So now are you resorting to modifying posts to pretend I delete things? LOL. You're pathetic. your liardom aside, which directions of investigation were ignored to coverup incompetence? You really set me straight on opinion versus theory too. This is easier than shooting fish in a barrell.
Anyway, we linked to the reports, and the materials list, and even to the likely sources of the materials listed in the reports that "Dr." Jones took out of context.
You give me that "Thermite is Everything" retarded crap.
Either produce the magical thermite faerie that creates the magical thermite that can't be detected except for in minute particles of dust and a reasonable explanation as to why no other source of those materials existed in the city and we might have a starting point.
Retarded. Simply and utterly retarded. I think that "Straw Man" may have to apply to the arguer rather than just the argument here, it takes as many "brains" as the straw man had in order to come up with this inanity.Everything is covered in thermite, obviously. That's why we know the terrorists did it.
Retarded. Simply and utterly retarded.
Anyway, because I believe that government employees covered up lines of investigation and therefore think we'll never know the entire story I therefore also believe that such lines were covered up and thus hard to delineate with certainty.
I asked specific questions I have above, but then again you don't actually read anything I actually type, you just keep spouting retarded straw men about "everything being covered with faerie dust".
I said that the detected materials in the dust that "Dr." Jones says were what made up the thermite were common in buildings in every city and were found in amounts that were not above the norm according to the very same reports that "Dr." Jones uses.You said thermite is basically all over the city, from welding torches or formed spontaneously from rusty cars and wolfsbane. It's seems you're the wizard in this scenario, mini-me.