Colonial Pipeline is a private company. Should the US Government get involved?

[Jack]

"Colonial Pipeline wasn't the first and won't be the last cyber pirate attack"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...t-be-the-last-cyber-pirate-attack/ar-BB1gAkqL

"The fact that an apparent group of cyber pirates -- a secret criminal nerd syndicate -- can take down the aorta of fuel for the East Coast should be sending shockwaves through the country."

 

[Jack]

Some argue that it is vital infrastructure and should be treated as a 'Strategic Industry'.

 

[Jack]

Others claim that would lead to 'socialism' and we should just private industry handle it.

 

[Jack]

Why use public funds (Taxpayer money) to support a private business?

 

[Hawkeye10]

Our cyber security is Dog Shit because our leaders barely have given a fuck about doing this job well.

BUCKLE UP!

 

[Hawkeye10]

I am remembering Jordan Peterson saying that we are lucky to have had mostly dumb terrorists, that we might think twice about giving them ideas on how to get better.

This is a lesson here.

 

[Jack]

Our cyber security is Dog Shit because our leaders barely have given a fuck about doing this job well.

BUCKLE UP!

The Question is: Should Private Enterprise have some sort of Government Assistance?

 

[Hawkeye10]

The Question is: Should Private Enterprise have some sort of Government Assistance?

You cant have cyber security without government assistance.

 

[Jack]

I am remembering Jordan Peterson saying that we are lucky to have had mostly dumb terrorists, that we might think twice about giving them ideas on how to get better.

This is a lesson here.

I am hoping JPP anti-Marxist scholars like MSG, Anatta, Sailor, BigDog, etc. would weigh in on this. I know they are COMPLETELY AGAINST 'Government' intervening in the Market Place.

 

[Jack]

You cant have cyber security without government assistance.

Each Company could be responsible for their own 'Cyber Security'.
Does the 'Government' need to station Armed Guards outside of every institution to protect it from being 'robbed'?

 

[Matt Dillon]

The Question is: Should Private Enterprise have some sort of Government Assistance?

The answer is no.

 

[Matt Dillon]

All they gotta do is make a backup of their hard drives every so often.

Ransomware is a joke!

 

[Jack]

The answer is no.

Thank you. That is the usual Conservative view point.

Second Question: What if the 'Private Enterprise' is 'Critical Infrastructure'?
In other words, the Private Enterprise is not some T-Shirt Shop, Car Leasing Company, Banana Import-Export Business. The Private Enterprise is involved with National Security, like Nuclear Power Plants, or a Pipeline that supplies Fuel to a third of the nation?

 

[Jack]

All they gotta do is make a backup of their hard drives every so often.

Ransomware is a joke!

At least you have an opinion and can express it.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Thank you. That is the usual Conservative view point.

Second Question: What if the 'Private Enterprise' is 'Critical Infrastructure'?
In other words, the Private Enterprise is not some T-Shirt Shop, Car Leasing Company, Banana Import-Export Business. The Private Enterprise is involved with National Security, like Nuclear Power Plants, or a Pipeline that supplies Fuel to a third of the nation?

Then they should have decent security. Many industrial machines still use XP.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

A foreign attack on domestic assets or population is a national issue.
To suggest otherwise is to embrace the "uselessness of government" position to an all new level.

It is inevitable that at some point, we will have a mutually destructive war that will end civilization and likely humanity itself.
I've lived my life.
It gets harder and harder to give a fuck anymore.

Any conflagration that rids the universe of some of the right wing troglodytes on this forum alone
is probably well worth the collateral damage to the rest of us.

 

[Jack]

Then they should have decent security.

Your opinion is duly noted.
(just a note. Fox News contributor Gen. Jack Keane says it needs to be a 'joint effort'. It's too big for every company to tackle by itself)

 

[Matt Dillon]

All they gotta do is take weekly backups of hard drives. If they get ransomewared, can be wiped and backup installed within 1/2 hr.

I did 4 comps in 1 hr.

1 part-time IT dude is all that's necessary.

 

[Matt Dillon]

I am hoping JPP anti-Marxist scholars like MSG, Anatta, Sailor, BigDog, etc. would weigh in on this. I know they are COMPLETELY AGAINST 'Government' intervening in the Market Place.

 

[Jack]

A foreign attack on domestic assets or population is a national issue.
To suggest otherwise is to embrace the "uselessness of government" position to an all new level.

It is inevitable that at some point, we will have a mutually destructive war that will end civilization and likely humanity itself.
I've lived my life.
It gets harder and harder to give a fuck anymore.

Any conflagration that rids the universe of some of the right wing troglodytes on this forum alone
is probably well worth the collateral damage to the rest of us.

"This is as close as you can get to the jugular of infrastructure in the United States," said Amy Myers Jaffe, research professor and managing director of the Climate Policy Lab. "It's not a major pipeline. It's the pipeline."
https://www.reuters.com/technology/...ations-after-cybersecurity-attack-2021-05-08/

"Ben Sasse, a Republican senator from Nebraska and a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, said the cyberattack was a wakeup call for U.S. lawmakers.
"This is a play that will be run again, and we're not adequately prepared," he said, adding Congress should pass an infrastructure plan that hardens sectors against these attacks."

Looks like one Conservative Senator thinks 'Critical Infrastructure' (even though privately held) needs 'Government Assistance'.