Clinton was not President when Ruby Ridge happened. Anyone who says he was, is trying to change history. The Attorney General that authorized all the Ruby Ridge events, and the Waco Raid was Bill Barr, who later trump appointed as attorney general again.
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Clinton was not President when Ruby Ridge happened. Anyone who says he was, is trying to change history. The Attorney General that authorized all the Ruby Ridge events, and the Waco Raid was Bill Barr, who later trump appointed as attorney general again.
The Branch Davidian spread gasoline around the compound. One thing about gasoline is it evaporates quickly, so they were definitely planning on burning the compound pretty much immediately. So the tear gas saved some lives, by getting people out of the burning building.
Many of the children were already dead by that point. They had stopped feeding the babies several days before. The lack of crying was what made them go in that day. Some of the babies were probably still alive and close to death, but others were dead.
Really great people you are defending there.
Then their salaries, retirement, and medical benefits should all be cancelled. I am sure they will be very unhappy with you losing all that for them, when all they wanted was a transfer.
You are such a damn liar. Have you any traces of a conscience? You simply say the opposite of the facts and repeat it again and again.
SmarterthanYou
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Actually, the US Marshalls Service was responsible for the start of it.
SmarterthanYou
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Bill Barr was not attorney general at that time, though he was the government attorney who defended Lon Horiuchi for assassinating Vicky Weaver when he murdered her behind a door.
SmarterthanYou
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perhaps you're not familiar with police union contracts..............
Who am I defending? I just posted a quote from Reno.
What I now know about GHW Bush I never would have voted for him. He was the original globalist. New World Order, Agenda 21. Ross Perot was ahead of his time. RIP.
Taichiliberal
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It goes both ways, because the right wing alternative to the nonsense in Portland are all those nifty little "sovereign citizens" that set up their towns and villages to be kingdoms unto themselves....their revisionist reverence for WACO and Ruby Ridge as their banner.
I've seen some revisionist interpretations of Waco, but Ruby Ridge doesn't really seem like a situation where you can paint the FBI in a positive light. I agree that sovereign citizens are delusional, however.
Thanks for proving my point.....because the latter involved an ex-convict in violation of his parole in addition to no registration of the children in that (armed) compound as being "home schooled". He resisted arrest. 'Nuff said.
Then you have the yahoos just a couple of years ago driving cross country/state, ARMED, to defend some clown who said it was his right to run his cattle over federal land without permission or oversight. Seems the local and federal cops showed restraint, as the yahoos would be outnumbered and out gunned.
And so it goes.
Taichiliberal
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The sheer stupidity of those trying to defend the yahoos on Jan. 6th just keeps getting better and better.
Taichiliberal
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Not as cut & dry as you make it out to be: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-08-16-mn-35756-story.html
Fuck portland they dont deserve a police force.
Stupid must be punished.
It is a simple fact that you are wrong, completely wrong. Bill Barr was Attorney General from November 26, 1991 to January 20, 1993. The Ruby Ridge Siege happened from August 21 to 31, 1992. Barr was the Attorney General who gave the orders.
trump liked that so much, trump selected him to be attorney general again. After Republicans spend so much time saying how evil Barr is, they have no problem reappointing him?
If they resigned from the police force, like you claim, they are no longer in the police union. There is no magic police union contract that requires people who no longer are police officers to get paid.
The rest of us know they just requested reassignment, but you are sure they resigned, so no more pay for them.
trump appointed Bush's Attorney General back to be Attorney General. If Barr was evil in 1993, why would trump appoint him... Unless trump is evil too?
Into the Night
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Federal marshals have no jurisdiction over truancy or any kind of schooling.
Yes. He resisted arrest. He should have. The attempted arrest was based on unconstitutional laws.
Don't need permits. Don't need oversight. There is nothing illegal about doing that.
The inverse, actually. The federal agents (there were no local cops) were outnumbered and outgunned. What these federal agents were attempting to do was illegal.
And so it goes.
Irrelevant to my post. Trump has nothing to do with it.