The honor system is a failure because Republicans are liars

[LV426]

You'll prove to my mother that this is the "Mark of the Beast" and she will NEVER get a vaccine at that point. There will be millions of folks who believe in "The Rapture" who will suddenly think it is their religious duty to work around your rules so they can avoid the lake of fire that is promised to those who get The Mark.

Great.

Then they can get COVID and fucking die.

No big loss.

If you believe that making it mandatory will make things better you are wrong.

Absolutely no way should the vaccine be mandatory.

Vaccine passports should be what's mandatory.

In fact, I think we should stop all vaccinations at the end of the month.

It's been 6 months, so if someone isn't going to get the shot by this point, they're never going to...so they can get COVID and fucking die, and we can send the vaccines they didn't want to countries that do.

 

[dukkha]

yet the left is against voter ID one of the most sacred things in out system. Why are vaccinated people worried about the non vaccinated? do the vaccines not work? No wonder we are still wearing them on planes

good question. i got 2 Pfixers. I'm not worried. there is nothing else I can do. Mandates run up against all kind of medical ethics problems -and even though THE GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN OVER OUR LIVE ( semi-sarcasm) I would hope we still have enough individual sovereignty to decide what we do with our bodies.

Aftrall that is the basis for Roe v Wade

They get cute though with "well private business isn't the government" but does FB (ex) not go along because they are partisan, and want no regulation.

More to the point there a now 2 court cases I know of that have upheld vaxx mandates - it's repulsicve
and greatly reminds me of China with the "social point "scoring system

 

[dukkha]

China's 'social credit' system ranks citizens and punishes them with throttled internet speeds and flight bans if the Communist Party deems them untrustworthy. China has been rolling out a system that ranks its citizens based on their "social credit
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-social-credit-system-punishments-and-rewards-explained-2018-4

 

[LV426]

Correct.

So glad to hear you're willing to kill yourself and your family just to own the libs.

I'm glad you're all finally listening to me.

Mass Conservative suicide is exactly what I've been hoping for.

The next six months of COVID deaths are going to be like Jonestown in slow motion, and I'm all here for it.

 

[Damocles]

Great.

Then they can get COVID and fucking die.

No big loss.




Absolutely no way should the vaccine be mandatory.

Vaccine passports should be what's mandatory.

In fact, I think we should stop all vaccinations at the end of the month.

It's been 6 months, so if someone isn't going to get the shot by this point, they're never going to...so they can get COVID and fucking die, and we can send the vaccines they didn't want to countries that do.

Which again makes it mandatory to "buy or sell"... Making the passport "the mark", and proving to my mother that no vaccine will ever get near her. While you have no care whatsoever for those folks, others do, the easiest solution would be to get the FDA to approve the danged thing then folks will get it without all this Authoritarian Fascist bullshit.

While you don't give a whip if the government mandates you carry your papers... those folks who supposedly can't even get an Identification for voting may have some problems with your nonsense.

 

[Diesel]

I think that we should stop with the vaccines on 7/31.

At this point, everyone who has wanted the shot has received it.

The only ones left who haven't are Trump voters.

So, let's put those unused vaccines to good use and ship all of them -ALL OF THEM- out of the country.

Then we'll let COVID do what it's going to do.

With a little luck, a few thousand more Republican voters will die and that will make the difference in some narrow elections next year.

Now there's a great idea. I wish I had thought of it myself. I remember when they were claiming Trump invented the vaccine while refusing to get it. Too bad, so sad. Close the vaccination clinics and there should a lot more dead cultists by next spring. I'm all in.

 

[LV426]

I've been doing so this whole time.

And thank you for doing that because you probably ended up killing a few hundred Trump voters so they can't vote in next year's elections, many of which will be very, very narrow and a few dozen or hundred votes can make the difference.

Well done.

 

[LV426]

I do, and I've been doing so this whole time.

Awesome! With a little luck, y'all can contract COVID and some of you will probably die from it, since the new strains are apparently pretty bad.

Thanks for handing us the 2022 midterms by killing off your base like fuckin' Jonestown.

 

[RB 60]

I'm going by the words of the leftist reps themselves and using their own words and fear mongering against them. You don't seem to understand that concept.

My belief is that PCR tests are not accurate. My belief is that COVID is being weaponized by the Biden Regime as a tyranny tool. .

I believe the China virus is what helped Biden get elected, and all the bad press about Trump.
Trump, despite the stupid things he says, did get the vaccine developed and delivered in record time.
Stupid people don't understand production and transportation logistics. They think Biden did all of it
when everything was planned under Trump and the flow started when he was elected. Now he's taking
credit for that. Biden didn't do shit but watch what was a concerted effort by our government and the
drug companies to develop the vaccine in record time and our caregivers to administer it.

 

[LV426]

This isn't possible, since none of us have COVID.

YET.

 

[LV426]

My family and friends don't all vote for Republicans, dude. Many of them do, though.

And killing them to own the libs is a smart strategy!

I think you should all get together in the COVID wing of the hospital and party!

 

[Diesel]

COVID, in and of itself, doesn't kill.

You're a fucking moron. So how many fully vaccinated people has COVID killed?

 

[RB 60]

Now there's a great idea. I wish I had thought of it myself. I remember when they were claiming Trump invented the vaccine while refusing to get it. Too bad, so sad. Close the vaccination clinics and there should a lot more dead cultists by next spring. I'm all in.

You are too stupid to realize many who refused the Trump vaccine are Democrats. That is a fact.

 

[LV426]

Yup. Though we did. I signed up for the testing protocol before it was given emergency approval.

Wait - why if you think there was no need?

I don't understand.

You don't think there's a need to get it, but you got it anyway?

Why? That doesn't make any sense.

 

[dukkha]

if you are vaxxed, -even though delta has some breakthru - the symptoms are not that bad, and to my knowledge (aside from co-morbidities) you aren't going to wind up hospitalized.

So stop saying unvaxxed put others at risk. Even if they did, people have a right to decide for themselves.
I realize the statist/Progs/fascist only care about their agenda - but kids for ex are not at risk for spreading
or bad symptoms
So they should be able to use risk/reward thinking (or their parents) for themselves

and masking kids does restrict oxygen flow, and they touch the mask and touch others, and their face

learn to live with the virus - make your own evaluation, and stop trying to impose mandates

 

[NiftyNiblick]

At this point, discussion about the covid vaccinations are obviously moot.
Sane people have gotten inoculated.
Dangerous people have not.

Civilized societies have ways of dealing with dangerous people,
but ours to this point has come up lacking.

 

[Diesel]

I'm going by the words of the leftist reps themselves and using their own words and fear mongering against them. You don't seem to understand that concept.

My belief is that PCR tests are not accurate. My belief is that COVID is being weaponized by the Biden Regime as a tyranny tool.

You people don't even hear yourselves. Your "belief" is not relevant because it is not based in reality. You can "believe" that green is yellow and that cats are sheep, but the rest of us consider you bat shit insane.

 

[Damocles]

Wait - why if you think there was no need?

I don't understand.

You don't think there's a need to get it, but you got it anyway?

Why? That doesn't make any sense.

We've already been through this conversation. You refuse to comprehend why I act or do things. You should remember it was the conversation that caused me to use the below quoted text every time I accidentally replied to you. I've gotten past that point now and am once again engaging you, but that can change quickly.

I edited my post from earlier. I didn't realize it was you, and accidentally engaged with you. I will not engage in any conversation with you because I believe you are disingenuous and incapable of a conversation based on information when such is introduced to you. If I see you act differently in the future I may begin to engage with you again. But until then, this will be my only response to you.

 

[LV426]

We did and do. Though none of us has ever contracted Covid so we can't pass it to anyone else.

Well, you don't know if you contracted it or not because you didn't get tested and could be asymptomatic.

Not showing symptoms isn't the same thing as testing negative for COVID, and you know that.

So what could have happened was that you and your family were lucky enough to be asymptomatic, but all the people you passed the virus to unknowingly might not have been. Before the vaccines, that is something that would probably set me off. But after the vaccines, I give a little bit less of a shit each day for the unvaccinated.

In fact, I'm pretty much there right now. I think we should end vaccine distribution at the end of the month and let COVID do its thing.

I'm done trying to convince people to get the shot.

Now, all I want to do is convince them NOT to get the shot because there's a chance they could die...and that doesn't bother me.

 

[Damocles]

Well, you don't know if you contracted it or not because you didn't get tested and could be asymptomatic.

Not showing symptoms isn't the same thing as testing negative for COVID, and you know that.

So what could have happened was that you and your family were lucky enough to be asymptomatic, but all the people you passed the virus to unknowingly might not have been. Before the vaccines, that is something that would probably set me off. But after the vaccines, I give a little bit less of a shit each day for the unvaccinated.

In fact, I'm pretty much there right now. I think we should end vaccine distribution at the end of the month and let COVID do its thing.

I'm done trying to convince people to get the shot.

Now, all I want to do is convince them NOT to get the shot because there's a chance they could die...and that doesn't bother me.

I get that you are done, much like not being capable of understanding the actual motivation of another can also be a sign of narcissism and sociopathy.

It appears we are at a standoff. I don't give a crap about your "done with it" nonsense. You are not what I would call a good person and I am glad this government has to do things differently than you would as dictator.