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Those that flock to the cities seem to be more parisitical and less independent.

You ever been to NYC?

If there is one place that defines "every man for himself," it's NYC.

Comparisons between NO & other locations during Katrina do not work. No other area came close to the devastation & flooding experience in NO.
 
You ever been to NYC?

If there is one place that defines "every man for himself," it's NYC.

Comparisons between NO & other locations during Katrina do not work. No other area came close to the devastation & flooding experience in NO.

I Spent lots of time in NYC, Atlanta, Miama, Tampa, Boston, Portland, (OR and NH) etc in the past on business. the first thing I noticed about NYC was that people talk as if they are argueing all the time. Kind of like being on a political chat board I guess :D

Anyway I was always just glad to escape the big cities.
 
You ever been to NYC?

If there is one place that defines "every man for himself," it's NYC.

Comparisons between NO & other locations during Katrina do not work. No other area came close to the devastation & flooding experience in NO.

I grew up 18 miles outside NYC and you are correct it is every man for himself

I thought, 9/11 showed another side of New Yorkers, and I would say the devastation was pretty bad there also

I was in NO. last week, the people were telling me how bad it was there, the warehouse I picked up at was completely under water, but not 1 of them cried about the Gov. they complained about the thugs murdering stealing and raping people

I don't know, just what the people that actually lived threw it told me
 
It's a political party. It HAS to have leaders.

Who in your opinion are the leaders of the Republican Party?
I think we are going through a selection process and that currently we are working on defining that.

Just insisting that is "has" to have something does not mean that currently there is a "leader". Repeating something does not make it so.
 
I Spent lots of time in NYC, Atlanta, Miama, Tampa, Boston, Portland, (OR and NH) etc in the past on business. the first thing I noticed about NYC was that people talk as if they are argueing all the time. Kind of like being on a political chat board I guess :D

Anyway I was always just glad to escape the big cities.

I accept that as you speaking for yourself, but I've lived all over this country and I love big cities and the mix of life and culture contained within them. I can guarantee that I'll find more interesting discussion and avenues of expression in New York than I would in Buttfuck, Texas or any small secluded community.

Often I find people from such communities are far too paranoid of life to live in big cities. Thinking of having to live life in such communites is a freakin' nightmare.
 
Poor little leaderless Republicans... boo hoo for them.
Where is this selection process taking place?
No. Cheers for them! Running around selecting any direction was a recipe for disaster. It's taking place in the party meetings as people begin to listen to new upcoming leaders who speak of a return to individual liberty and fiscal conservatism, of the aim being reset to constitutional guarantees both for the individual as well as limiting the government. It's quite exciting really.

People like Leondray Gholston, Vice Chair of the Colorado Republicans.
 
I accept that as you speaking for yourself, but I've lived all over this country and I love big cities and the mix of life and culture contained within them. I can guarantee that I'll find more interesting discussion and avenues of expression in New York than I would in Buttfuck, Texas or any small secluded community.

Often I find people from such communities are far too paranoid of life to live in big cities. Thinking of having to live life in such communites is a freakin' nightmare.

to each his own. And you city folks stay in the city we kill city folks out here and life sucks. All you are allowed tp drive is pickup trucks, you must watch NASCAR, etc...

If you move next to me I will start a hog farm on that side of my property.

jk mostly.
 
No. Cheers for them! Running around selecting any direction was a recipe for disaster. It's taking place in the party meetings as people begin to listen to new upcoming leaders who speak of a return to individual liberty and fiscal conservatism, of the aim being reset to constitutional guarantees both for the individual as well as limiting the government. It's quite exciting really.

This is generally referred to as "full spin mode"....
 
This is generally referred to as "full spin mode"....
LOL. Says the spinner that insists that 10% shows that a person is "the leader". Please. If this isn't pointing in the mirror and thinking you hit a different target I have no idea what is.
 
LOL. Says the spinner that insists that 10% shows that a person is "the leader". Please. If this isn't pointing in the mirror and thinking you hit a different target I have no idea what is.

It doesn't matter what you perceive is happening "internally" (oh, that exciting process!) To the rest of the country, the voices of the GOP since January have been Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. Period. If any regular American wanted to know what the GOP's position was on this or that issue, those individuals have been their source.

You can spin it whichever way you want; "we're still choosing our leader," whatever - it isn't like there is a vacuum there while you are all deliberating. It has been filled, in a vocal way, and the GOP is getting defined by it as a result.

Even on this board, rarely a day goes by when some rightie doesn't tout Palin as the frontrunner in 2012, and how we libbies are "shaking in our boots" as a result.
 
It doesn't matter what you perceive is happening "internally" (oh, that exciting process!) To the rest of the country, the voices of the GOP since January have been Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. Period. If any regular American wanted to know what the GOP's position was on this or that issue, those individuals have been their source.

You can spin it whichever way you want; "we're still choosing our leader," whatever - it isn't like there is a vacuum there while you are all deliberating. It has been filled, in a vocal way, and the GOP is getting defined by it as a result.

Even on this board, rarely a day goes by when some rightie doesn't tout Palin as the frontrunner in 2012, and how we libbies are "shaking in our boots" as a result.
LOL.

Again, the media focus on those three does not make them the "leaders" of anything. This is pitiful, really. No matter how many times you repeat the talking points they aren't becoming reality. 10% does not "the leadership" make. What it really shows is the media focuses on those who aren't the "leaders". They are equally inept at choosing them as the left is choosing our "leaders" for us.

And it is exciting. I've worked to have the liberty caucus gain a foothold for a very long time. It is very cool to see it happening. Crap, you know I have. I've spoken of this for as long as you've "known" me. I used to post their website all the time.
 
I accept that as you speaking for yourself, but I've lived all over this country and I love big cities and the mix of life and culture contained within them. I can guarantee that I'll find more interesting discussion and avenues of expression in New York than I would in Buttfuck, Texas or any small secluded community.

Often I find people from such communities are far too paranoid of life to live in big cities. Thinking of having to live life in such communites is a freakin' nightmare.

you are right about the fear of some to live in the big city, myself I have lived in both, I know live on 4 acres of land, no sirens, no drug dealers or hookers on the corner, no traffic,to some it is all in what ya like
 
I think we are going through a selection process and that currently we are working on defining that.

Just insisting that is "has" to have something does not mean that currently there is a "leader". Repeating something does not make it so.

My brother .. get real.

Political parties are hierarchal by their very nature. They have to have structure and successive layers of power.

Your problem is that you know how utterly hopeless the current leadership of the Republican Party is so you won't acknowledge it .. which is OK because you aren't the Republican Party and you don't speak for it.

Michael Steele is a leader in the party and he does speak for it.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In comments that were broadcast over the weekend, Republican Party Chairman Michael Steele called Rush Limbaugh's rhetoric "incendiary" and "ugly" and insisted that he is in charge of the GOP.

"Rush will say what Rush has to say; we'll do what we have to do," RNC Chairman Michael Steele has said.

On Monday, however, after a blistering response from the conservative talk-radio kingpin, Steele told the online journal Politico that he "was maybe a little bit inarticulate."

"There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership," Steele said. He added, "There are those out there who want to look at what he's saying as incendiary and divisive and ugly. That's what I was trying to say. It didn't come out that way."
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/02/gop.steele.limbaugh/

It didn't come out that way because that's not what he said. He said Rush was just an entertainer .. now he saying he didn't mean to diminsh his leadership.

Your position seems to be that the Republican Party is leaderless .. just drifiting along waiting for the One to emerge. Very strange.

Who in your opinion has any possibility of emerging that could capture and engage a majority of Americans .. or is this person yet to be born?

Should we be looking to the east for a star?
 
My brother .. get real.

Political parties are hierarchal by their very nature. They have to have structure and successive layers of power.

Your problem is that you know how utterly hopeless the current leadership of the Republican Party is so you won't acknowledge it .. which is OK because you aren't the Republican Party and you don't speak for it.

Michael Steele is a leader in the party and he does speak for it.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In comments that were broadcast over the weekend, Republican Party Chairman Michael Steele called Rush Limbaugh's rhetoric "incendiary" and "ugly" and insisted that he is in charge of the GOP.

"Rush will say what Rush has to say; we'll do what we have to do," RNC Chairman Michael Steele has said.

On Monday, however, after a blistering response from the conservative talk-radio kingpin, Steele told the online journal Politico that he "was maybe a little bit inarticulate."

"There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership," Steele said. He added, "There are those out there who want to look at what he's saying as incendiary and divisive and ugly. That's what I was trying to say. It didn't come out that way."
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/02/gop.steele.limbaugh/

It didn't come out that way because that's not what he said. He said Rush was just an entertainer .. now he saying he didn't mean to diminsh his leadership.

Your position seems to be that the Republican Party is leaderless .. just drifiting along waiting for the One to emerge. Very strange.

Who in your opinion has any possibility of emerging that could capture and engage a majority of Americans .. or is this person yet to be born?

Should we be looking to the east for a star?
Again, everybody is trying to fill the vacuum, those who "led" in the past are gaining little ground.

Insisting that there "is" something doesn't make it so. There "will be" when this all settles, but at this time there is no single person anybody can point to that is the "leader" of the party. There will be, but this hasn't come to fruition yet. At this time nobody is "the voice" of the party. And as I said before, there is no need to rush into a decision, there is a political eternity between now and the next big election cycle.
 
you are right about the fear of some to live in the big city, myself I have lived in both, I know live on 4 acres of land, no sirens, no drug dealers or hookers on the corner, no traffic,to some it is all in what ya like

I don't assume you to be a fool, but to suggest that all there is to big cities is drug dealers, hookers, and traffic seems to me to be a seriously foolish thought.

I enjoy the diversity of people and culture found in big cities and I would not want to raise children or spend my life bored to fucking death in Buttfuck.

I also enjoy watching the Clampetts come to town for vittels.
 
Again, everybody is trying to fill the vacuum, those who "led" in the past are gaining little ground.

Insisting that there "is" something doesn't make it so. There "will be" when this all settles, but at this time there is no single person anybody can point to that is the "leader" of the party. There will be, but this hasn't come to fruition yet. At this time nobody is "the voice" of the party. And as I said before, there is no need to rush into a decision, there is a political eternity between now and the next big election cycle.

Well irrespective of you not watching what is happening within your own party, do you know who is emerging as a leader within your party?

Haley Barbour

.. along with Palin and Romney

In other words, your party is shrinking and becoming more conservative.

Whether you agree with that or not, that my brother is da' facts.
 
Well irrespective of you not watching what is happening within your own party, do you know who is emerging as a leader within your party?

Haley Barbour

.. along with Palin and Romney

In other words, your party is shrinking and becoming more conservative.

Whether you agree with that or not, that my brother is da' facts.
Foolishness. I am participating in what is happening in my party, and whether you want to pretend that Rush's 10% in a media poll means he "leads" the party, well, honestly it doesn't really matter, other than to point out spin. Or Palin's 2% means she leads... Please.

Changes come to even the R party, and a return to personal freedoms (responsibility) isn't far from reality. Dems "da" facts, even ones that are shown using the data on what was presented by those who repeat those same talking points.
 
Again, everybody is trying to fill the vacuum, those who "led" in the past are gaining little ground.

Insisting that there "is" something doesn't make it so. There "will be" when this all settles, but at this time there is no single person anybody can point to that is the "leader" of the party. There will be, but this hasn't come to fruition yet. At this time nobody is "the voice" of the party. And as I said before, there is no need to rush into a decision, there is a political eternity between now and the next big election cycle.

Who was talking about Obama as a potential candidate 3 years before the election???
 
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