45% now trust the GOP more

maineman said:
like I said... if you want to make a big deal out of two weeks of polling data while ignoring eight months of polling data, you are being intellectually dishonest and, deep down, you know it.
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what a tool....you don't even know what intellectual honesty is and you're using the term intellectually dishonest incorrectly here...i have made zero arguments regarding the polling data except that it shows NOW more people are seeing a negative direction for the country and that is growing

it is a fact, you can talk about october all you want, but NOW, the PRESENT shows more and more people are viewing the direction of the country negatively and more and more people trust republicans....

if all you have is whining about so called intellectually dishonesty then you might as well keep quiet at it only shows you have no clue what you are talking about
 
»∞«;459513 said:
because of it's a poll of likely voters, which is what electoral politics is all about, and predicts who may have an advantage for an upcoming election, which would result in public policy being vastly different.
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Still a minority Mr. Infiniti, or do you prefer mobius? And about the same ratio as the last election.
 
Yurt said:
what a tool....you don't even know what intellectual honesty is and you're using the term intellectually dishonest incorrectly here...i have made zero arguments regarding the polling data except that it shows NOW more people are seeing a negative direction for the country and that is growing

it is a fact, you can talk about october all you want, but NOW, the PRESENT shows more and more people are viewing the direction of the country negatively and more and more people trust republicans....

if all you have is whining about so called intellectually dishonesty then you might as well keep quiet at it only shows you have no clue what you are talking about
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the last ten days shows a trend that you make a big deal about.... the last eight months shows a trend that you consider completely irrelevant.

I get it.:pke:
 
maineman said:
the last ten days shows a trend that you make a big deal about.... the last eight months shows a trend that you consider completely irrelevant.

I get it.:pke:
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Why does it matter what a poll from last October said? I bet I can dig up a poll from 1980 which shows America is jazzed about Reaganomics... is that relevant in any way to what is going on now? A poll was posted, a most recent poll, not one from months ago, and it is generally considered a better indicator of how people feel today, not 8 months ago!

You see, it is of significant importance in politics, how people feel NOW as opposed to how they felt 8 months ago. I don't know how to explain that to someone acting retarded, but really.... what purpose does an 8 month-old poll have, when a more current poll is available? Why must you jump in here and interject absolute stupidity like this?

Obama's overall job approval trend is going down, not up. Trust in the Democrats is on the decline, not the increase. That is what the TREND shows, unless you want to discount current polling data and pretend a poll from 8-months ago is still somehow relevant in showing how people now feel.
 
Epicurus said:
If you take Rasmussen with a grain of salt, you might as well throw out any other polls before reading them. Rasmussen remains the most effective polling firm that releases data to the public. They are the PEW of political, current-events polling. They were the only polling firm to predict the outcome of the 2004 election to within a tenth of a percentage point, and they are one of the few firms that actually takes the trouble to poll likely voters instead of random numbers.
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Let's also be clear. there are TWO methods for polling "likely voters" being used.

A.) The pollster simply asks the respondent if they are "likely to vote?" This method is thought to be better than a random sample, but it depends on the respondent answering honestly regarding what they plan to do. Most people are naturally inclined to answer "yes" to this question, regardless of their actual intentions or history.

B.) Verified Likely Voters is the best method, and the one used by Rasmussen. This is where the pollster verifies the past voting record of the potential respondents, to determine true "likely voters" or people who are indeed "likely to vote" in the upcoming election.
 
Dixie said:
Why does it matter what a poll from last October said? I bet I can dig up a poll from 1980 which shows America is jazzed about Reaganomics... is that relevant in any way to what is going on now? A poll was posted, a most recent poll, not one from months ago, and it is generally considered a better indicator of how people feel today, not 8 months ago!

You see, it is of significant importance in politics, how people feel NOW as opposed to how they felt 8 months ago. I don't know how to explain that to someone acting retarded, but really.... what purpose does an 8 month-old poll have, when a more current poll is available? Why must you jump in here and interject absolute stupidity like this?

Obama's overall job approval trend is going down, not up. Trust in the Democrats is on the decline, not the increase. That is what the TREND shows, unless you want to discount current polling data and pretend a poll from 8-months ago is still somehow relevant in showing how people now feel.
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if you use the words "approval trend" then you are, by definition, placing importance on polling data older than RIGHT NOW.:pke:
 
maineman said:
if you use the words "approval trend" then you are, by definition, placing importance on polling data older than RIGHT NOW.:pke:
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You are the one who used the word "trend" first, not me. A trend would be the only importance 8-month-old data would have or purpose it would serve. It makes no difference to me, if you want to look at the trend, it's heading south for Obama... if you want to look at the here-and-now, more people are trusting Republicans.

Of course, what you want, is to muddy up the water like always.
 
Dixie said:
You are the one who used the word "trend" first, not me. A trend would be the only importance 8-month-old data would have or purpose it would serve. It makes no difference to me, if you want to look at the trend, it's heading south for Obama... if you want to look at the here-and-now, more people are trusting Republicans.

Of course, what you want, is to muddy up the water like always.
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I DID use the word trend first...because I think that monitoring trends is a wise thing to do. Obviously, you do too, or you would not have made the statement "Obama's overall job approval trend is going down, not up. Trust in the Democrats is on the decline, not the increase. That is what the TREND shows"

Like I said to yurtle the turtle:

the last ten days shows a trend that you make a big deal about.... the last eight months shows a trend that you consider completely irrelevant.

I got it.:pke:
 
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