Reality Check

Darla said:
Well, if there are two things you are a specialist in Ass, it's which codewords racists and women-hating dateless two inchers use.
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wouldn't that comment have more literary merit if you'd have used "mysogenistic pencil dicks" instead of women-hating two inchers?

I know, don't yell at me, no one likes the syntax police. :)
 
Superfreak said:
Crowley didn't just go through training like this guy.... he was chosen to TEACH the class. To try to cover up Gates racist/elitist attitude by hiding behind charges of racism against the cop is pathetic.
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"racism against the cop"

amazing

It doesn't matter one iota that Crowley was teaching the class or whether he wrote the fucking book. Gates was arrested because he fucked with Crowley's ego .. which is not against the law.

This is an attitude that most cops have.

I don't expect you recognize the terrorism cops reign down on peoiple of color every fucking day.

Believe me, I don't expect you to get it.
 
blackascoal said:
"racism against the cop"

amazing

It doesn't matter one iota that Crowley was teaching the class or whether he wrote the fucking book. Gates was arrested because he fucked with Crowley's ego .. which is not against the law.

This is an attitude that most cops have.

I don't expect you recognize the terrorism cops reign down on peoiple of color every fucking day.

Believe me, I don't expect you to get it.
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Cops are a-holes to whites too though. That shit is equal opportunity.
 
Racism will always exist on somne level in the USA. Well at least for the imaginable future.
Humans may eveolve enough emotionally to get beyone racism, but until that time we will have racism. It is a result of some negative aspects of our currnet human natures.

One of those aspects is a lack of personal responsibility. Always blaming our failure on some other group.
Unions blame Management. Management blames unions.
Whites blame blacks. Blacks blame whites.
Can't find a job? Blame an illegal immigrant because they will work cheap.
etc, etc, etc.
 
uscitizen said:
Racism will always exist on somne level in the USA. Well at least for the imaginable future.
Humans may eveolve enough emotionally to get beyone racism, but until that time we will have racism. It is a result of some negative aspects of our currnet human natures.
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Not necessarily.

One thing that doesn't help matters is trying to use racial discrimination to stop racial discrimination. I'm speaking of the various and sundry Affirmative Action programs and quotas and all that jazz.
 
Darla said:
Who says Gates displayed racism? You? Who said Gates automatically assumed the cop was racist because he's white? You?

Let me let you in on a couple of little secrets. I always know when I'm dealing with a sexist, but I never assume I'm dealing with one just because I'm dealing with a man. I know it from tone, code words, gestures, attitude, facial expression, etc. You are not a person of color, and whatever your choices in clothing might indicate, you are not a woman, so though you might feel fit to pass judgement on this, you aren't. You don't know what made Gates believe the cop was a racist, and you don't know that he was wrong in his impression.

The point is, the difference between what you are talking about, and institionalized racism which has always been against people of color and not whites, is the very fact that one of them is institutionalized. If you don't understand the real-life ramifications of that for people of color, then I can't help you.
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As I stated when this story broke... they need to release the copy of the conversation. Crowley had an open mike. It was recorded. They released the 911 call and Crowleys report... they should release this as well.

I'll let you in on a little secret... the cries of 'institutionalized racism' are getting old. As for it always being against people of color and not whites... how do explain Affirmative Action then? Because that is most certainly a racist policy that it designed to due just that.

Again, pretending that because I am white and a male that somehow means I cannot form opinions on these issues is nothing more than bullshit on your part. You pretend you can tell if a male is sexist based on tone, body language etc... which in some cases you might be correct. Which translates into... 'you're a sexist if I say you are'.

I never claimed to know exactly why Gates thought the cop was a racist. I just stated that if the report on his behavior is accurate (and the report is supported by the black and Hispanic cops that were with Crowley).... then Gates is a racist for acting like Crowley was racially profiling him when in fact Crowley was just doing his job.

So take your sexist/racist bullshit and stuff it. If you think a person is qualified to discuss these issues based solely on gender/race.... that makes YOU the sexist/racist.
 
blackascoal said:
"racism against the cop"

amazing

It doesn't matter one iota that Crowley was teaching the class or whether he wrote the fucking book. Gates was arrested because he fucked with Crowley's ego .. which is not against the law.

This is an attitude that most cops have.

I don't expect you recognize the terrorism cops reign down on peoiple of color every fucking day.

Believe me, I don't expect you to get it.
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Again, this is the exact attitude that contributes to the circle of idiocy.

You are correct, yelling at a cop is not against the law.... but it WILL get arrested in most circumstances. Whether you are white or black. If you provoke the cop or verbally abuse them for doing their job, the odds of you going to jail increase rapidly.

As for your other bullshit, I have stated many times that I understand that it occurs, but to automatically assume it is occurring every time a black man is arrested by a white cop is nothing more than crying wolf.

Your constant ignorance on the fact that people of color can ALSO be racists is where you fail.
 
blackascoal said:
"racism against the cop"

amazing

It doesn't matter one iota that Crowley was teaching the class or whether he wrote the fucking book. Gates was arrested because he fucked with Crowley's ego .. which is not against the law.

This is an attitude that most cops have.

I don't expect you recognize the terrorism cops reign down on peoiple of color every fucking day.

Believe me, I don't expect you to get it.
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Gates was arrested because he didn't submit to authority. If the perpetrator had been white the result would have been the same. *shrug*
 
DonQuixote said:
a boston cop referred to gates as a 'banana eating jungle monkey' in an email to the boston globe per cnn this morning

wtf
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Cue Dixie, Tinfoil, Southerman, and the contingent of racism-enabling wingnuts, to whine about reverse racism and the unjust subjugation of the white male victim.


Hey Don, is this any surprise? Do you think this cop is an isolated example. Of course he isn’t. I haven’t been following this nonsense, but common sense suggests to me that if this professor was lily-white, drove a Mercedes, and was wearing a silk tie and expensive threads, the mofo never would have been arrested. .
 
Cypress said:
Cue Dixie, Tinfoil, Southerman, and the contingent of racism-enabling wingnuts, to whine about reverse racism and the unjust subjugation of the white male victim.


Hey Don, is this any surprise? Do you think this cop is an isolated example. Of course he isn’t. I haven’t been following this nonsense, but common sense suggests to me that if this professor was lily-white, drove a Mercedes, and was wearing a silk tie and expensive threads, the mofo never would have been arrested. .
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word to the mutha fuckin street on that one:clink:
 
Cypress said:
Cue Dixie, Tinfoil, Southerman, and the contingent of racism-enabling wingnuts, to whine about reverse racism and the unjust subjugation of the white male victim.


Hey Don, is this any surprise? Do you think this cop is an isolated example. Of course he isn’t. I haven’t been following this nonsense, but common sense suggests to me that if this professor was lily-white, drove a Mercedes, and was wearing a silk tie and expensive threads, the mofo never would have been arrested. .
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Speculation doesn't create facts.
 
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