Reality Check

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LOL, I know. But for some reason, no one seems to ever leave. All you hear about is everyone complaining about it but everyone stays.

Its like we're Sadists.

Or just ignorant.

 

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Bottom line: the woman who made the original 911 call basically made part of Crowleys statements a LIE. This puts the ENTIRE "official" report in question....just because black/hispanic cops back him up is no guarantee that all the events/reactions were as they say. That the charges were dropped within less than 5 hours indicates that Crowley and company didn't have a leg to stand on. So unless there is an IA investigation or lawsuit-trial that proves otherwise, Crowley and company are not squeaky clean on this.

Gates may have over reacted and became a blow hard about his status, etc.......but Crowley's job was done the second Gates proved he was the resident and owner of the house. Crowley didn't like Gates attitude....and decided to teach him a lesson. That was wrong.

Oh, and by the by....your statement about Affirmative Action? When "legacy" placements are a defunct practice, then affirmative action can truly be called racist. Until then, anyone whining about affirmative action is just knee jerking a reaction.

1) The fact that he was released does not mean they did not have a case. It means that Gates had political connections that got him released.

2) Yes, Gates over-reacted.

3) What a crock of shit. Just because the 'legacies' get in... which is wrong if they are not deserving.... doesn't make Affirmative action right. It is not knee jerk reacting. Both are wrong. It should be based on merit. Not on who your mommy and daddy are and most certainly not based on your skin pigmentation.

 

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Always trying to come to her defense... are you two secret lovers now?

Tiana dedicates the following to Darla...

"Secret lovers, yeah, that’s what we are
We shouldn't be together
But we can’t let go, no, no
‘Cause we love each other so
Ooh…ooh…"

Secret? We've always been very out in the open about our relationship.

 

[Cancel7]

"Always trying to come to her defense... are you two secret lovers now?"

Well, using that logic, you and Damo are....?

Actually, using that logic, Damo is screwing every rightie on the board....

He's a f'ing whore! He chases people all over this board! Why he even tried to seduce me, the homosexual!

Sorry, I had a Yurt Spurt.

 

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1) The fact that he was released does not mean they did not have a case. It means that Gates had political connections that got him released.


You have got to be shitting me. So, he's guilty. Not charged, not convicted, but he's guilty.

That's interesting SF. Some very intesting things have come out on this thread, haven't they?

 

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1) The fact that he was released does not mean they did not have a case. It means that Gates had political connections that got him released.


You have got to be shitting me. So, he's guilty. Not charged, not convicted, but he's guilty.

That's interesting SF. Some very intesting things have come out on this thread, haven't they?

wow, for someone who teaches others how to write properly, you would think your reading comprehension skills would be better than that. I did not say he was guilty. I stated that his quick release didn't mean he was innocent in the matter either as others have stated.

Yes, interesting things have come out. Lorax is obsessed with Yurt. You and Tiana's love affair is no longer secret. You have developed Toppys reading comprehension capabilities. You cannot spell interesting... even when the site has an automatic spell check....

 

[Jeff]

Now I know you're full of shit.

Everyone gets robbed in Newark.

Lets see I am full of shit cause I stated I was robbed at gun point in Newark NJ, but according to you everyone gets robbed there, Got ya OOO and when I went to the cops, cause our truck was stolen also, I was told I shouldn't of been there cause I am white

So you know this was 26 or so years ago, and as for everyone getting robbed , lol, I doubt it

But in all fairness Newark has become a cesspool , it was bad back then but not like it is now, Hell I am sitting in Bayonne as I type this, another beautiful place in the Garbage state

 

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wow, for someone who teaches others how to write properly, you would think your reading comprehension skills would be better than that. I did not say he was guilty. I stated that his quick release didn't mean he was innocent in the matter either as others have stated.

Yes, interesting things have come out. Lorax is obsessed with Yurt. You and Tiana's love affair is no longer secret. You have developed Toppys reading comprehension capabilities. You cannot spell interesting... even when the site has an automatic spell check....

The fact that he was released does not mean they did not have a case. It means that Gates had political connections that got him released.

I'm sorry, I can't read for comprehension? You better read that again. You first stated what his release does not mean. You then stated what his release does mean.

I don't use the spell checker on here. When it comes to spelling errors, typos and grammar, I'm like the guy with the biggest penis. I don't have to give enough of a crap to show it off. I already know it.

 

[Taichiliberal]

1) The fact that he was released does not mean they did not have a case. It means that Gates had political connections that got him released. That is pure supposition and/or conjecture on your part. If cops have a solid case and are united, they hold onto their convictions like pitbulls. Case in point, the Rodney King verdict...you have video tape of police using unnecessary force and abuse (with black & hispanic cops in sync) yet the cops went to review...and got a pass!

2) Yes, Gates over-reacted. Yep, and he was IN HIS HOUSE! Bottom line: mouthing off to a cop in your house is NOT a crime...and until you have an investigation that can PROVE Gates was out of control when he stepped out of his door AT THE BEHEST OF CROWLEY, then it's just "no I didn't, yes you did" stuff. And as I pointed out, the chain of events and the disclaimer by the 911 caller makes Crowleys story suspect.

3) What a crock of shit. Just because the 'legacies' get in... which is wrong if they are not deserving.... doesn't make Affirmative action right. It is not knee jerk reacting. Both are wrong. It should be based on merit. Not on who your mommy and daddy are and most certainly not based on your skin pigmentation.

You've just wasted time and space..... Remember, I wrote that when you remove one, you remove the other. Fair is fair. In other words, there should be no preferential treatment on any level. Also, I always find it fascinating that the vast majority of people who railed against Afirmative Action WERE NEVER DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY IT, yet they grudgingly accepted the policy of legacy students....go figure.

 

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The fact that he was released does not mean they did not have a case. It means that Gates had political connections that got him released.

I'm sorry, I can't read for comprehension? You better read that again. You first stated what his release does not mean. You then stated what his release does mean.

I don't use the spell checker on here. When it comes to spelling errors, typos and grammar, I'm like the guy with the biggest penis. I don't have to give enough of a crap to show it off. I already know it.

That is correct. Where in the above did I say it meant Gates was guilty as your previous post asserted? The post I addressed stated that his release meant the cops fucked up. I was presenting an alternate answer that disputed that assertion.

 

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You've just wasted time and space..... Remember, I wrote that when you remove one, you remove the other. Fair is fair. In other words, there should be no preferential treatment on any level. Also, I always find it fascinating that the vast majority of people who railed against Afirmative Action WERE NEVER DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY IT, yet they grudgingly accepted the policy of legacy students....go figure.

You are full of shit. You are saying that as long as one wrong exists, that it is ok to insert a lot of other wrongs??? The ignorance of that is impressive. You have sunk to the level of Cypress or Tutu.

Tell me... where do you get that the vast majority of people who rail against AA are:

1) never affected by it

2) accepting of legacies

??

Because I want to see your evidence that backs that up....

 

[Taichiliberal]

You are full of shit. You are saying that as long as one wrong exists, that it is ok to insert a lot of other wrongs??? The ignorance of that is impressive. You have sunk to the level of Cypress or Tutu.

Wipe the spittle from the screen, take a breath and THINK about what I am saying. On one hand you have an unofficial system that has been in play for God only knows how many decades, yet everyone screams bloody murder about the parts of affirmative action that set aside quotas for students that didn't make the grade. My point......if you allow one to exist but eliminate the other, you are in effect exercising preferential treatment. Fair is fair.....get rid of one, get rid of the other.

Tell me... where do you get that the vast majority of people who rail against AA are:

1) never affected by it Simple....do a little research and find out how many students were actually disenfranchised from enrollment by Affirmative Action, and then check this as a against the general population of students enrolled (their families, friends, etc.).

2) accepting of legacies I don't recall a whole lot of articles, protests, rallies, broadcasted/televised punditry about legacy students in my life time. Do you? I mean, when it came to light that the Shrub was a legacy student, his defenders just shrugged it off.

??

Because I want to see your evidence that backs that up....

See above. Don't ignore the observations/questions.

 

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strawman and red herring

if someone is a legacy student.....so effing what

it is not mandated by the government and last i checked, bush went to PRIVATE schools

 

[DamnYankee]

You're in denial as usual, bunky. The woman went public to PROVE that what Crowley had stated was NOT based on her 911 call. That makes Crowley at worse, a liar. At least, it makes him incompetant and then stubbornly refusing to admit error. For a cop, that is not a good thing.

All the supposition, conjecture and just basic revisionist bullshit you can muster and repeat ad nauseum won't change the facts that I've pointed to here. *shrug* But that's never stopped you before...

Apparently you believe the woman's version of how the cop reacted rather than the cop's...

 

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See above. Don't ignore the observations/questions.

Again you twit... READ what I stated, I dont want either to exist, but that doesn't mean it is OK to introduce another wrong just because the first wrong existed. ESPECIALLY when it is a RACIST policy.

As I thought, you have NO evidence to support your assertion. You don't make an assertion and then tell someone who questions your statement that they have to go do the research. Because that simply tells me, you have NOT done the research and thus are pulling shit out of your ass with the hope that no one will call you on your shit.

 

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See above. Don't ignore the observations/questions.

side note twit... there is no spittle... When someone says you are full of shit... they are essentially calling bullshit on your position. It is not hostile. It is suggesting that the ignorance of your comments is almost comical.

 

[Taichiliberal]

strawman and red herring

if someone is a legacy student.....so effing what So that means that a qualified student was passed over because of it. Isn't that what all the wailing about how unfair Affirm Action was all about? Your hypocrisy is showing.
it is not mandated by the government and last i checked, bush went to PRIVATE schools

Once again, you demonstrate your proud ignorance. AA affected higher education....period. Do your homework next time and stop acting so effing stupid by blurting out strawman and redherring to mask your ignorance.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Again you twit... READ what I stated, I dont want either to exist, but that doesn't mean it is OK to introduce another wrong just because the first wrong existed. ESPECIALLY when it is a RACIST policy.

Ahhhh, but in your haste to puff yourself up and call me a twit, you overlooked what I wrote.....I stated in no uncertain terms that preferential treatmen in general was wrong....so you eliminate BOTH. You can't have one exist and then demonize the other. That's hypocrisy, bunky. Next time READ CAREFULLY AND COMPREHENSIVELY....will make you look less like a twit.

As I thought, you have NO evidence to support your assertion. You don't make an assertion and then tell someone who questions your statement that they have to go do the research. Because that simply tells me, you have NOT done the research and thus are pulling shit out of your ass with the hope that no one will call you on your shit.

It's been a few years since I've had to deal with braying jackasses on this subject, so rattling off stats and references are not at my fingertips anymore. And quite frankly I get tired of doing others homework. Common sense approach using easily accessible general knowledge doesn't help, I see. Well, with just a quick google, I found a gentleman that puts my point into perspective

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/category/affirmative-action/

Also, FYI to cover the rest of the issue.

http://www.bamn.com/doc/factsheet.asp
http://www.adversity.net/Pro_AA/docs/Pincus_JIR.htm

 

[Taichiliberal]

side note twit... there is no spittle... When someone says you are full of shit... they are essentially calling bullshit on your position. It is not hostile. It is suggesting that the ignorance of your comments is almost comical.

That you immediately went hostile on me simply because I disagreed with you on one particular subject created a visual that I just had to share. That you continue in this vein does not change that imagery. See my response below....it should calm you down so we can have a civil exchange.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Apparently you believe the woman's version of how the cop reacted rather than the cop's...

Neither I, nor the woman or her lawyer ventured to speculate on Crowleys "reaction"....she merely told the FACTS that contradict Crowleys written version. The audio of the tape confirms her story. It's simple....what Crowley said wasn't true...in effect he commited perjury in submitting a false statement. That a quick review dismissed his report and dropped charges against Gates lends credence to the woman's statement regarding her 911 call.

Keep BS'sing and dancing, my little neocon parrot....you're pathetic attempts to be clever are most entertaining!