Is the US really heading for a second civil war?

Matt Dillon said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Nah, you're just a paper tiger who's a pussy when it comes to real debates or real life.

What's the matter, Matty....to embarrassed or too much heat about the Confederate flag icon? :laugh:
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I can bring it back if you like, faggot. :fu:
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Without explaining why you changed it in the first place? Hmmm, a suspicious coincidence.

C'mon ya pussy, grow up.
 
signalmankenneth said:
[FONT=&]Joe Biden had spent a year in the hope that America could go back to normal. But last Thursday, the first anniversary of the deadly insurrection at the US Capitol, the president finally recognised the full scale of the current threat to American democracy.
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[FONT=&]“At this moment, we must decide,” Biden said in Statuary Hall, where rioters had swarmed a year earlier. “What kind of nation are we going to be? Are we going to be a nation that accepts political violence as a norm?”
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[FONT=&]Related: Trump has birthed a dangerous new ‘Lost Cause’ myth. We must fight it | David Blight[/FONT]
[FONT=&]It is a question that many inside America and beyond are now asking. In a deeply divided society, where even a national tragedy such as 6 January only pushed people further apart, there is fear that that day was the just the beginning of a wave of unrest, conflict and domestic terrorism.
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[FONT=&]A slew of recent opinion polls show a significant minority of Americans at ease with the idea of violence against the government. Even talk of a second American civil war has gone from fringe fantasy to media mainstream.
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[FONT=&]“Is a Civil War ahead?” was the blunt headline of a New Yorker magazine article this week. “Are We Really Facing a Second Civil War?” posed the headline of a column in Friday’s New York Times. Three retired US generals wrote a recent Washington Post column warning that another coup attempt “could lead to civil war”.
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[FONT=&]The mere fact that such notions are entering the public domain shows the once unthinkable has become thinkable, even though some would argue it remains firmly improbable.
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[FONT=&]The anxiety is fed by rancour in Washington, where Biden’s desire for bipartisanship has crashed into radicalized Republican opposition. The president’s remarks on Thursday – “I will allow no one to place a dagger at the throat of our democracy” – appeared to acknowledge that there can be no business as usual when one of America’s major parties has embraced authoritarianism.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-really-heading-second-civil-070014808.html

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No.

All deep state ops are cancelled due to no fucks given.
 
Pretty soon some high up general and trump are going to go in and tell biden to vacate the premises, and hand over the football.

NO shots fired.

Mark my words.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Pretty soon some high up general and trump are going to go in and tell biden to vacate the premises, and hand over the football.

NO shots fired.

Mark my words.
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Give a time limit and this bet: If it doesn't happen you self-ban forever. If it happens, I'll self-ban. Deal or will you run like a chickenshit again, Fredo?
 
cawacko said:
Mott the Hoople said:
Naaa. It isn’t Ken. What we are seeing is part yellow dog journalism, on both sides to be fair, though I would agree that the Right has the far bigger and potentially violent extremism problem.

Those are mostly the highly motivated number of cable news junkies who haven’t educated themselves on political science and philosophy and are thus more susceptible to persuasion. Then you have the very vocal single issue proponents plus the standard middle class true believers. Add them up and it’s a pretty large number but compared to the rest of the population
Their a small minority.

Then go to town and walk around the popular areas for shops and restaurants and entertainment venues and tell me this looks like the kind of people who want to fight a civil war. It would be insane. You would be talking tens of millions of lives ended and even more ruined. Hard economic times for decades assuming there even is a recovery and the absolute destruction of infrastructure and property, both public and private) beyond imagining. That’s not a people I see.

What I see though is a perceived economic inequality in the rural/small town regions and with our working class. Our nation is being radicalized by poverty and irresponsible politicians exploiting those circumstances by playing on the extremes and using populist rhetoric irresponsibly. The politicians need to be brought in check by those who don’t want violence which is by far the majority.

Address the inequality issue and discipline the politicians and you solve the problem or eventually the pitchforks would come out though by then you’d probably have a Revolution.

I doubt it goes that far.

To reassure you just do some reading of primary source documents from about five years before and during the Civil War. Compare the difference in the newspapers from the different regions of that period. The rancor and acrimony was far greater not just in the media but a personal level out on the streets.

It’s not nearly as bad as then and people now are far more educated about the consequences having experienced a Civil War that grew beyond anyone’s comprehension or belief at that time. We are now not that naive.

The US is not going to have a war over who a better idea of governing. If such a thing were to happen now it would have to be over serious material considerations. Meaning money. That doesn’t happen to be the case right now. I doubt it will. Something will probably break before that happens and it will get fixed. One way or another.
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Good points (especially about the media who loves to emphasize and promote division). You made me think of a scenario at work where your team is in the conference room in the morning working on a big deal, then someone says "ok, I know we're all going to be out on the streets attempting to kill each other tonight but if we survive let's reconvene in the morning and we'll pick up negotiations on this proposal..."
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Agreed there won't be war. 330M Americans have too much to lose and very little to gain burning down our government and installing dictators in a handful of regions.

The only idiots screaming Civil War are losers in life; lazy, over-privileged fuckwads who expected life to hand them riches on a platter because of their skin-tone and status. They are spoiled morons who will be taken down in the streets if they try to commit mass murder.

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Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed there won't be war. 330M Americans have too much to lose and very little to gain burning down our government and installing dictators in a handful of regions.

The only idiots screaming Civil War are losers in life; lazy, over-privileged fuckwads who expected life to hand them riches on a platter because of their skin-tone and status. They are spoiled morons who will be taken down in the streets if they try to commit mass murder.

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You gotta explain how this delusional scenario of yours plays out a little bit better.
 
The continuation of our republic in its present fifty state format is no priority for me.

I don't see why we need a civil war to change it, but if that's what it takes,
it's probably inevitable.

We're seriously fucked up right now.
We're Rome with the Goths at the gate.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It's you dumbasses who are pushing Kamala by continually asking Biden to step down. WTF do you think the consequences of Biden resigning would be? Duh.

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A five day orgasm for humanity.

No dem policies come from their actual politicians. They're puppets.

The overlords are abandoning dems.

they've thrown hillary to the wolves. Stupid dems. useful idiots.
 
AssHatZombie said:
A five day orgasm for humanity.
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Idiots.

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The fucking morons on the Right who want Biden to resign are setting up Harris to run as an incumbent instead of having a free-for-all in 2024. Fucking morons are playing checkers in a world that plays chess.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It's you dumbasses who are pushing Kamala by continually asking Biden to step down. WTF do you think the consequences of Biden resigning would be? Duh.

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Who the fuck is doing that? Democrats are doing that, I want him in there for the entirety of the term!

Yes indeedy deedy! That way America can see and feel the Democrat policy results and judge how to vote accordingly.

At least Biden's parents weren't Marxists.
 
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