Healthcare debate really bringing out the stupid in righties

it is apparently a big deal and is causing many to not support the bill....why can't you simply point out where the bill allays those fears? tell me, what does this mean:



sure looks to me like if you haven't had such end of life consultation in the past 5 years you are forced (shall) to be consulted on the following.....help me understand



consultation does not equate to mandate for action.

idiot.
 
consultation does not equate to mandate for action.

idiot.

But Manieman it does to Cons you know how gullibly suggestable they are. The person they consult with might be a republican!

You just do not understand the deep rooted fear this instills in them.

Can you imagine if the consultant looked like Rush?
 
Where? Where in there does it say it's going to be "forced"?

You guys are really fools; illiterate fools. Meme posted the clause in question when she said it was going to be "forced." All it says is that the gov't will let Medicare pay for it, if the individual CHOOSES it. So, if people want it, Medicare will pick up the tab.

Just add conservatives & water, and that became a DEATH PANEL with MANDATES.

It's endless entertainment, if it wasn't so sad.

what a fucking waste....i ask you to help me understand and you insult me....fucking loser....

the words shall are mandatory.....and if it is not forced.....why does it matter if one has had such consultation in the last five years? why can't you rationally help me understand instead of acting like a 5 years old and froth at the mouth? no wonder people don't support this bill.....idiots like you cause them to be more suspicious....

at least ib1 rationally debates this issue
 
It's the Progressives who are trying to bring back slavery and the American people are catching on....
 
Sorry to hurt your feelings, Yurtie. I realize it must be hard to realize that the conservative BS about forced death planning is....well, BS.

I know how badly you'd like it to be true, so you can continue to defend liars like meme.
 
i never said it did you fucking illiterate moron

LOL @ at the fact that less than a week ago Squirt was getting her panties in a wad b/c I called someone names.

Not trying to ride your high horse today huh?
 
i never said it did you fucking illiterate moron

you asked for help in understanding you stupid little fag... I tried to help you understand.

What IS your problem with the government paying for end of life counselling regarding living wills?

Are you intelligent enough to articulate them, moron?
 
Sorry to hurt your feelings, Yurtie. I realize it must be hard to realize that the conservative BS about forced death planning is....well, BS.

I know how badly you'd like it to be true, so you can continue to defend liars like meme.

Even if the consultation with the doctor was mandatory, I don't get how they've made the leap from consultation to euthanasia.
 
Even if the consultation with the doctor was mandatory, I don't get how they've made the leap from consultation to euthanasia.

They can leap, I have seen some amazing distances covered in one sentence!
 
Even if the consultation with the doctor was mandatory, I don't get how they've made the leap from consultation to euthanasia.

and i agree...i don't see the leap....but i can understand how some can....what i don't understand is why you can't simply put a sentence or two in and allay people of that fear....stupid is as stupid does
 
you asked for help in understanding you stupid little fag... I tried to help you understand.

What IS your problem with the government paying for end of life counselling regarding living wills?

Are you intelligent enough to articulate them, moron?

either show where i said it or recant you lying sack of shit
 
Sorry to hurt your feelings, Yurtie. I realize it must be hard to realize that the conservative BS about forced death planning is....well, BS.

I know how badly you'd like it to be true, so you can continue to defend liars like meme.

fuck you.....you can't debate this issue, you can only insult....i gave you what appears to indicate forced consultations and you can't even help me understand how that is not so....all you have are petty insults....

you're a waste of time
 
and i agree...i don't see the leap....but i can understand how some can....what i don't understand is why you can't simply put a sentence or two in and allay people of that fear....stupid is as stupid does

The burden of proof is on the people making these outlandish accusations. The fact that you're fucking stupid to realize that is amazing.

Its like trying to explain advanced calculus to a one year old.
 
either show where i said it or recant you lying sack of shit

Why don't you prove that you didn't say it.

Isn't that you want the dems to do? Prove that they didn't say something that someone's making up?
 
The burden of proof is on the people making these outlandish accusations. The fact that you're fucking stupid to realize that is amazing.

Its like trying to explain advanced calculus to a one year old.

this isn't about bop you fucking moron....this is about getting a bill passed and if you want people to support it YOU need to convince them....that you don't see that only shows how stupid you are.....and then there is this....so looks like its gone anyways

Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa), the top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, said the provision for counseling patients about "end of life" decisions was being dropped because it could be misinterpreted or implemented incorrectly.
 
this isn't about bop you fucking moron....this is about getting a bill passed and if you want people to support it YOU need to convince them....that you don't see that only shows how stupid you are.....and then there is this....so looks like its gone anyways

Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa), the top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, said the provision for counseling patients about "end of life" decisions was being dropped because it could be misinterpreted or implemented incorrectly.

Yes. It was misinterpreted. By idiots.
 
Find me the language where it specifically states they will not use the guillotine on seniors!

When you accuse a mandate, for anything, the onus is on you; that's just the way it is. No one has been able to produce that language, even though this is a raging national debate.

It's insanity at its finest. I can't believe the level to which the healthcare debate has gone.
 
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