Cops have no constitutional duty to protect you

dukkha said:
the states and "the people" we are around before the federal government -and the 10th merely protects
( not "derives") those plenary powers from being glommed up/absorbed by the feds.
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So what you're saying is that if not for the 10th Amendment, the federal government would write all the laws for everyone.

So how is that any different from what I said? It's not, you're just a fucking moron.
 
LV426 said:
No they aren't...they weren't until the 10th amendment.
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this is why you not only lose every debate, but people stop debating with you. your idea of history is so wrong..........you should really sit down and shut up before you begin to look even crazier and stupider
 
Damocles said:
Whether or not they are fired doesn't change that they should be regardless of this pretend demand that the constitution forces them as individuals to do a job.
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I have never once in this thread said the Constitution forces them to do any job.

You have tried to foist that position on me in order to make this shit-ass, limped-dicked response.

So take your fucking straw man and shove it up your fat ass, loser.
 
LV426 said:
I know...what do you think I've been pointing out this whole time?

What do you think the OP subject means?

Dude.




Yes, I know...that's why I've been asking everyone what is the point of law enforcement since they have no Constitutional duty to enforce the law?




I am not pretending that and if you read my posts on this thread, would see that I am the one pointing OUT that they have no duty to protect us...not that they do.

My argument is that they are pointless because they have no duty to enforce the law, despite calling themselves law enforcement.
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My point is this: They are not the government and therefore have no personal CONSTITUTIONAL duty to do something. However they accepted a job that requires them to do this as part of the job and if they will not do the job for any reason they should be fired. They are also not constitutionally protected for being fired for not doing their job.

Pretending that because the SCOTUS says that cops are not "constitutionally required" to act in some way makes it so they cannot be fired for not doing the work you hired them to do is just stupid.

They can be fired and held accountable for not doing the work you hired them to do even knowing they are not "constitutionally required" to do it because it is their job to do it. If you do not do your job you will be fired, the same works for these folks.
 
LV426 said:
Yes they abso-fucking-lutely are.
The power over which is derived from the 10th Amendment.By default of the 10th amendment.
So again, you are defending law enforcement for not enforcing the law.That's how fucking stupid you are today.
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as usual you are ass backwards
The 10th limits federal powers and protects those powers from being usurped by the feds.
That's all it does ( and Congress/fed court willingly usurps them anyhow by bastardization
of the Commerce Clause -but that's another topic)

In no way whatsoever do state powers come from the Constitution.
Use some logic for once -the states pre-date the federal government and already had powers
given to them by the people of those state.

All government powers come from the consent of the governed - the federal government does not give those powers
it merely cant usurp them .this is really basic federalism -
in fact the Articles of Confederation got their powers from state compact as well
 
Damocles said:
My point is this: They are not the government and therefore have no personal CONSTITUTIONAL duty to do something. However they accepted a job that requires them to do this as part of the job and if they will not do the job for any reason they should be fired. They are also not constitutionally protected for being fired for not doing their job.
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OK...but we're still not talking about WHY they chose to not enforce the law in Uvalde that day...that's the question here; why?

Why did they stand there and let those kids die?

Why did they lie and say the door was locked?

Why are they refusing to cooperate with investigations?

Why did they refuse to release any details to the Uvalde City Council?

The answer to all those questions is the same: law enforcement is systemically and structurally bankrupt.

So since law enforcement only enforces laws when they feel like it, why shouldn't they get defunded completely?
 
LV426 said:
So what you're saying is that if not for the 10th Amendment, the federal government would write all the laws for everyone.

So how is that any different from what I said? It's not, you're just a fucking moron.
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you are claiming the feds are the source of powers -that the states "derive" those powers by the 10th
of the US Constitution. It's ass backwards as usual by you .. the people and the states give the federal government enumerated power
 
dukkha said:
you are claiming the feds are the source of powers -that the states "derive" those powers by the 10th
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Of course they do...that's why they have state Constitutions.


the people and the states give the federal government enumerated power
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You know we fought a war 160 years ago about this very topic, and you lost that war.
 
LV426 said:
OK, but the job of law enforcement is to enforce the law, so if there is no Constitutional duty to enforce the law, then what is the point of law enforcement?
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Do u get upset when immigration laws are not enforced in BLUE sanctity cities
 
Sailor said:
Describing yourself then. That is not a stupid comment. Liberals are the sole reason for the pussification of this country. There is zero argument to that.
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If you represent the other side, Sailor, how is it even possible to suggest that your side isn't the contingent of pussies? Who's a bigger pussy than you? Your cowardice and timidity actually drip from each word you type.

You can't face reality because in your case, reality is such a horrible thing to face.

I guess that it's time to put you back on ignore.
 
LV426 said:
All cops are bad...it doesn't matter what state they are in.

The institution of law enforcement is corrupted, so it will never produce positive outcomes.
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Not so, LV. The true believers who think that they're the defenders of public virtue are the ones who turn out to be the biggest bullies and/or cowards.

The ones who just want a good civil service job with benefits and appreciate having it are the ones who actually care about doing their jobs correctly.
 
volsrock said:
Do u get upset when immigration laws are not enforced in BLUE sanctity cities
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Make no mistake, I'm not upset that police have no Constitutional duty to protect you, other people seem upset by that.

I already don't expect cops to protect people.
 
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