Trump supporters/voters

Check those that apply to you.

  • You think America is a Christian nation or should be.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • You don't want LGBT folks to have equal rights.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • You support forcing 10 year old rape/incest victims to carry fetuses to term.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • You make excuses for the 1/6 insurrectionists.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    4
Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
child, you will NEVER be competent to put me down......

And you will never be a Christian getting off on hazing people.
 
Thank you for participating. Two so far.

MAGA Republicans:

PostmodernProphet
T.A. Gardner

Wrong! Massively wrong. This is an existential fallacy. It is a formal fallacy as well making it particularly egregiously wrong.

What this amounts to is the following:

The poll lists a series of conditions. Nowhere does it say anything about MAGA Republicans or make any quantifications of that sort.

As a fallacy, it amounts to this:

All of the answers are those exclusively of Trump supporters and MAGA Republicans
Answering any of these affirmatively makes you a Trump supporter and MAGA Republican

Thus, someone could select You believe that CRT and Woke ideology are being taught in public schools. and nothing else. By the standard set by AProudLefty, you suddenly support Trump and are a MAGA Republican.

That proposition is absurd on its face. A perfect example of that absurdity is this one: You think the border is being overrun by immigrants and drugs without aopprention. (sic) That is a provable fact and has nothing to do with Trump whatsoever. Yet, selecting it gets you lumped in with supporting Trump and being a MAGA Republican.

If you aren't registered as a Republican, same absurdity. You don't suddenly become a Republican because you answered this poll.

Thus, the conclusion reached by AProudLefty is an absurdity, formal logical fallacy, and in more base terms, nothing but bullshit.
 
Wrong! Massively wrong. This is an existential fallacy. It is a formal fallacy as well making it particularly egregiously wrong.

What this amounts to is the following:

The poll lists a series of conditions. Nowhere does it say anything about MAGA Republicans or make any quantifications of that sort.

As a fallacy, it amounts to this:

All of the answers are those exclusively of Trump supporters and MAGA Republicans
Answering any of these affirmatively makes you a Trump supporter and MAGA Republican

Thus, someone could select You believe that CRT and Woke ideology are being taught in public schools. and nothing else. By the standard set by AProudLefty, you suddenly support Trump and are a MAGA Republican.

That proposition is absurd on its face. A perfect example of that absurdity is this one: You think the border is being overrun by immigrants and drugs without aopprention. (sic) That is a provable fact and has nothing to do with Trump whatsoever. Yet, selecting it gets you lumped in with supporting Trump and being a MAGA Republican.

If you aren't registered as a Republican, same absurdity. You don't suddenly become a Republican because you answered this poll.

Thus, the conclusion reached by AProudLefty is an absurdity, formal logical fallacy, and in more base terms, nothing but bullshit.

Nope. There is a difference between a Trump supporter/voter and a MAGA Republican. Dark Brandon made that distinction.

A Trump supporter/voter is not necessarily a MAGA Republican.
 
Well, you haven't made the case for that in the least here.

It's pretty easy. A Trump voter does not necessarily mean he/she support treason, traitors, insurrection, stealing classified documents, lying about the election and so on.

Those people are the minority of Republican voters. Not the half of country.
 
These are the ones I selected. I've added commentary on why.

You agree with Trump that Democrats are Fascists.

I don't agree with Trump on this per se, but the Democrats are becoming increasingly fascist. We are seeing an FBI that is running into more and more trainwrecks over being political rather than impartial when it comes to national politics.

You think the border is being overrun by immigrants and drugs without aopprention.
(sic)

The border is being overrun by illegal aliens and drugs. The numbers show that clearly. The Joke administration has done nothing to stop or mitigate that. There is nothing anyone can argue to the contrary, and I defy you to try and do so.

You think the legally executed search warrant was a raid.

This assumes the search warrant was legal to begin with. I have serious doubts about that. That it was a raid can be surmised from the number of agents involved, and their armed posture in carrying it out.

You believe that CRT and Woke ideology are being taught in public schools.

I don't "believe" this, but rather know it is being taught in public schools. Not all public schools, but many.

You support banning books that you think teach the children about "uncomfortable" facts and history.

Again, this question is badly worded. I support banning books that teach children incorrect facts and history, like the 1619 Project that is fiction rather than history but is currently widely used (over 2000 schools) as a history text. Teaching fiction as history is wrong. Using that book as fiction is fine, but not as a factual history book. I also think that one person's "uncomfortable facts" is another person's facts and truth.

You believe that 1/6 was a legitimate political discourse.

It was to a point, then it got out-of-hand and turned into a riot. Were riots held on the day after Trump was elected in 2016 legitimate political discourse? If you can't condemn those, then you are a hypocrite.
 
It's pretty easy. A Trump voter does not necessarily mean he/she support treason, traitors, insurrection, stealing classified documents, lying about the election and so on.

Those people are the minority of Republican voters. Not the half of country.

Everyone knows who Biden was speaking of. Anyone who doesn't see things his way. He (along with many democrats) want to destroy this nation by division, racism and bigotry.
 
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