Only 20% of Americans identify themselves as Republicans

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blackascoal

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Only 20 percent claim to be Republican

New ABC/WaPo poll out finds that only 20 percent of Americans claim to be Republicans, a 26-year low. Additionally, while a majority believe the country is on the wrong track, 49 percent trust Obama to make the right decisions for the country, versus 34 percent who trust Congressional Democrats, and a paltry 19 percent who trust the Congressional Republicans. (The 20 percent claim to be GOP number is apparently not in the data to which I linked, but ABC reported it on their evening newscast).

It seems reasonable to conclude that the only people who trust Congressional Republicans are those who declare themselves to be Republican (in my case, what else would I be?). I guess I would be in the one percent who admits to being a Republican, but who has no faith in the Congressional Republicans. But cheer up! I don't have faith in the Democrats or the president either!

The Republicans are plainly in serious trouble. Typically, a third of all Americans identify with the GOP, a third with the Democrats, and a third call themselves independent. The balance of power in US electoral politics goes to the party that can attract independent votes. The GOP has withered away to the bone -- and if the Carville-Greenberg focus groups can be believed, it's going to be a walking skeleton for some time yet.
http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2009/10/only-20-percent-claim-to-be-re.html

So in spite of all the noise and screaming and shouting and all the teabaggin' .. the Republican Party still continues to decline.

So sad because if they had their act together they could eat Obama's lunch ..

It should also be noted that democrats are not the winners of republican loss .. independents are. So sad because if democrats had any courage whatsoever they would be the winners of republican loss and could firmly hold the reins of power in this country for many years.

It seems that Republicans are still on a course to becoming the Whigs .. taken over by "nativists" and southern morons who attacked moderates within their party and drove in into oblivion.

Republicans have none to blame but themselves.

Kick the morons out of your party and regain your self-respect.
 
i'm so sick of polls....

poll this poll that....

i could do a poll that shows every single american hates polls and doesn't trust them.....

did you shit this morning....yes

do you like the smell of the shit....no

do you want to participate in a poll about this....no

you don't trust a poll about this....fuck off
 
Yurt said:
i'm so sick of polls....

poll this poll that....

i could do a poll that shows every single american hates polls and doesn't trust them.....

did you shit this morning....yes

do you like the smell of the shit....no

do you want to participate in a poll about this....no

you don't trust a poll about this....fuck off
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Not an unexpected sentiment from someone who votes republican.
 
blackascoal said:
Not an unexpected sentiment from someone who votes republican.
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i've vote both democrat and republican, depends on the person and their ideas/agenda

so....not an unexpectaed sentiment from someone who votes democrat.... :pke:

and yet i have no doubt if a poll shows something you don't agree with, you will dismiss it as partisan or some other bullshit.....
 
My question would be does this 20% constitute only registered voters or all does all Americans literally mean all 300 some odd million of us or is it just Americans above the voting age? I read through the article quickly so if it's stated in there it's quite possible I missed it.
 
Yurt said:
i've vote both democrat and republican, depends on the person and their ideas/agenda

so....not an unexpectaed sentiment from someone who votes democrat.... :pke:

and yet i have no doubt if a poll shows something you don't agree with, you will dismiss it as partisan or some other bullshit.....
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Do you have ANY demonstration of that by me?

ANY demonstration will do.

I understand the necessity of polling .. and in fact, I use them in one function of what I do for living. They are benchmarks .. that's it.

I'm a proponent of polling.
 
:lol:


Obama must be getting worried that everyone thinks he is a complete idiot, sending out his media ass lickers to contact the so called public for a poll. Until you look at the numbers and realize most were democrat ass kissers to begin with and the questions were phrased just for them.
 
blackascoal said:
Do you have ANY demonstration of that by me?

ANY demonstration will do.

I understand the necessity of polling .. and in fact, I use them in one function of what I do for living. They are benchmarks .. that's it.

I'm a proponent of polling.
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funny....you demand a demonstration by me....but have no problem making your claims about me.....

thats hypocritical
 
This actually makes perfect sense. GW Bush himself declared that he redefined the republican party and apparently 80% of those former republicans don't like the new definition.
 
I like that 1% identify themselves as republicans and yet don't trust congressional republicans.
 
identify.

A) this does not equate to who the public will vote for. Someone may not identify as a republican, but may still prefer a republican than a democrat in some circumstances

B) This does not take into account the rate that those that may identify themselves as democrat may vote at. There could hypothetically be less self identified republicans, but those that do may vote more than self identified democrats, shifting the numbers in republicans favor.

When talking about the "death of a party" these are important indicators to take into account. What are the voting inclinations of likely voters? That's pretty important when we are actually discussing elections.

I'm not saying which way it is, I am just pointing out that this poll doesn't really tell us much of anything in as so far as how electoral politics are trending.
 
And may I remind everyone that grandpa munster mccain ran a campaign the last election in which his party caught flack for katrina, 2 unpopular wars, the economy downturn, and was on the heels of one of the most unpopular presidents in recent history, while concurrently being up against one of the *supposedly* most transformative figures in american politics, and only lost by a 3 percentage swing.

Currently this dead party is also making it hard as hell for the democrats to pass healthcare reform when they control both houses and the executive, all the while when 65% of americans themselves want some measure of reform.

Lastly four years is a long time in american politics. I'm sure many thought republicans were dead for a long time after nixon resigned, and yet, in a few short years, reagan came on the scene.

Do not underestimate the short attention span of the american public.
 
Exoendo said:
And may I remind everyone that grandpa munster mccain ran a campaign the last election in which his party caught flack for katrina, 2 unpopular wars, the economy downturn, and was on the heels of one of the most unpopular presidents in recent history, while concurrently being up against one of the *supposedly* most transformative figures in american politics, and only lost by a 3 percentage swing.

Currently this dead party is also making it hard as hell for the democrats to pass healthcare reform when they control both houses and the executive, all the while when 65% of americans themselves want some measure of reform.

Lastly four years is a long time in american politics. I'm sure many thought republicans were dead for a long time after nixon resigned, and yet, in a few short years, reagan came on the scene.

Do not underestimate the short attention span of the american public.
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how long do you watch a commercial......30 seconds

so you don't pay attention longer than 30 seconds....no

AMERICANS HAVE 30 SECOND ATTENTION SPAN

~polling done by the non partisan megasuperneutralyurt corporation
 
Exoendo said:
identify.

A) this does not equate to who the public will vote for. Someone may not identify as a republican, but may still prefer a republican than a democrat in some circumstances
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DUH

Exoendo said:
B) This does not take into account the rate that those that may identify themselves as democrat may vote at. There could hypothetically be less self identified republicans, but those that do may vote more than self identified democrats, shifting the numbers in republicans favor.

When talking about the "death of a party" these are important indicators to take into account. What are the voting inclinations of likely voters? That's pretty important when we are actually discussing elections.

I'm not saying which way it is, I am just pointing out that this poll doesn't really tell us much of anything in as so far as how electoral politics are trending.
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The Republican party isn't dead. Explicit support is low, but the two-party nature of our system allows the other party to go to dead levels of support but go zombie when it finds some issue to latch on to. If the Republicans didn't die in the 30's their not going to die now. Despite trying to latch on to health care, the Republicans haven't been successful, and it hasn't gotten them very far. They've been able to manipulate the Democrats like hell from the minority because the Democrats are much weaker and less coherent than the Republicans.
 
Yurt said:
funny....you demand a demonstration by me....but have no problem making your claims about me.....

thats hypocritical
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What claim did I make other then you resp;onse is what would be expected of someone who votes republican. I was unawre that you had ever voted for a democrat, although I did think you to be a self-described republican.

If I'm mistaken I apologize.

I try real hard to maintain a civil respect between us.

That being said, you won't find me arguing about polls unless they're fraudulently conducted .. which usually comes out by analyzing patterns.
 
i don't think this poll is fraudulent, I just don't think we can draw the conclusion that the republican party is dead from this specific data
 
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