Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Yes and no.
Why do you agree with Hobbes? From the link:
"Some of the founders expressed skepticism about the claims of Christianity, of course. With very few exceptions, however, they were not deists who thought God set the world in motion and left it to run on its own, and they certainly weren’t Hobbesians who thought morality was merely an invention of society or the state."
I disagree that morality is merely an invention of society; there are certain genetic aspects to mammals. Humans are social animals, like most simians. We're tribal with the worst punishment in ancient societies often being banishment to be alone in the wilderness. As such there are many common, very basic moral rules among human tribes.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/202111/is-morality-genetic
Is Morality Genetic?
KEY POINTS
- Many psychological and behavioral outcomes once believed to be transmitted socially may in fact be under strong genetic control.
- Moral values tend to be self-serving and are calibrated to one's sexual strategy.
- New research suggests that moral values are inherited rather than learned.
...Developmental research over the last 50 years has shown that many outcomes once attributed to the parenting or social environment are in fact strongly genetic. Some of these findings have enjoyed a positive reception. For example, the findings that autism, schizophrenia, and sexual orientation are coded in biology rather than the results of deficient parenting have helped to correct grave historical injustices.
Other such findings have been more difficult for the cultural intuition, and discourse, to absorb. For example, many people are surprised to hear that children of divorce are more likely to divorce themselves not because of their early experiences with divorced parents but rather due to inheriting from their parents those genes that make marital instability more likely. Likewise, many are surprised to hear that parental behavior—the way parents parent—generally has little to no effect on children’s personalities....
