Conservatives want to raise taxes and kill SS and Medicare

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I don't forget that.

Yes you did. Don't lie. Anyone that wants to can go look at your post.

The facts are that the richer you are the smaller a percent of your earnings go purchases.

You forgot it again. Learn what 'fact' means. Buzzword fallacy. 'Fact' does not mean 'proof' nor 'Universal Truth'.

Poor people spend almost 100% of their income on daily consumption items and therefore nearly 100% of their income would be subject to this 30% tax.
The ultra rich pay a tiny percent, comparatively, which is what matters.

And you just forgot it again.

The uber rich need to be taxed on 100% of their income at whatever rate society decides. Not 30% on sales tax that equates to 5% or 1% of their total income.

Socialism doesn't work. Communism doesn't work.

Especially when the uber rich will then just avoid all bigger purchases in the US to duck that tax even more easily.

No, they will simply leave...and take their marbles with them. That means jobs go away. Factories go away. All that economy goes away. The only thing left will be crime and poverty.

 

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No it doesn't. If it did, then everyone would have health insurance.

Everyone who wanted health insurance could get it...until socialism ruined it.

 

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The only paradox that exists is the one where you think we can get lower oil prices without constraining oil company profits.

It is YOUR paradox. You made it. You are still stuck in it. Only YOU can clear it. So far continue to argue both sides of the paradox. You are being irrational.

 

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Another excuse you use to avoid accountability for the incorrect things you say on JPP that I point out.

You aren't pointing anything out. You are making fallacies instead.

 

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Not ast all sweet pea, I am just demonstrating what happens to a poorly thought out idea.

No, you can't clear your paradox by denying it. You must clear your paradox.

 

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Everyone who wanted health insurance could get it...until socialism ruined it.

Nope. Not everyone who wanted it could get it because they can't afford it.

More people were uninsured prior to the ACA than after.

 

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Those are called tax deductible business expenses which can be depreciated. Are you gonna pay 23% tax on a new car, or maybe a house? People will put off or eliminate big ticket expenditures and send this country into depression, Einstein.

So now you are arguing exceptions to the tax. You're backpedaling.

 

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Maybe try telling that to all the Conservatives who got PPP funds forgiven despite not paying a single cent back.

Not capitalism. Socialism.

 

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So now you are arguing exceptions to the tax. You're backpedaling.

no sweetie pie, you brought up business expenses.

 

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It is YOUR paradox. You made it. You are still stuck in it. Only YOU can clear it. So far continue to argue both sides of the paradox. You are being irrational.

No, it's YOUR paradox pal, because I don't believe that you can get lower oil prices by unrestrained oil company profits.

YOU THINK THAT.

It's what you've been arguing this entire time.

The price of oil will never go down and stay down so long as oil companies can make any amount of profit they want.

 

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By now, I think we all know why the toothless cretins who need an enhanced social safety net the most nonetheless vote republican.
Republicans don't bust a gut laughing at them like we do.

There is no such thing as a 'social safety net'. Socialism doesn't work.
Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security are already beginning to fail.

 

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You aren't pointing anything out. You are making fallacies instead.

If I wasn't pointing anything out, you wouldn't be coming up with excuses.

All you do here is make excuses.

 

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Not capitalism. Socialism.

A bailout.

After you said there wasn't one.

LOL.

 

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no sweetie pie, you brought up business expenses.

That's what ITN does...they steal what you write and try to claim it as their own.

The reason they do this is because they don't believe in anything enough to come up with things to say on JPP.

So instead, you get excuses and plagairism.

 

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You have started saying this because I pointed out that you use excuses to avoid the fact that you ultimately have no sincere beliefs of your own.

And everyone is starting to realize that.

You don't get to speak for everyone. Omniscience fallacy.
Argument of the Stone fallacy.

 

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sure it is......nobody has proposed to raise taxes.......nobody has proposed to kill SS or Medicare......its just another brainless demmycrat starting another brainless thread.....

As I said, and you didn't address in your attempted deflection, t it isn't all wrong, entitlements is on the list of freedom caucus list, and the budget wonks on the right back to Ryan are big on replacing SS with funding private accounts

 

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There is no such thing as a 'social safety net'. Socialism doesn't work..

Socialism works so well that whenever capitalism fails, you blame it on socialism.

Socialism isn't the reason why 42M people in the US are on food stamps, capitalism is.

 

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ITN does that whenever their argument runs into a wall.

Instead of defending their argument, they come up with excuses for why they won't.

But the thing is that's so transparent, so they're not really fooling anyone.

You are not arguing. You make fallacy after fallacy. You are currently locked into multiple paradoxes that you so far haven't cleared. You are being irrational.

 

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You don't get to speak for everyone. Omniscience fallacy.
Argument of the Stone fallacy.

Sure seems to be the case now...even folks on this thread are calling you full of shit.

If you actually had any sincere beliefs you wouldn't be using so many excuses for not stating them.

 

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Nope. Not everyone who wanted it could get it because they can't afford it.

More people were uninsured prior to the ACA than after.

TANSTAAFL. Nothing is free, dumbass. ACA is already failing. It is already the most expensive insurance and is failing from its own weight. Socialism doesn't work.