There are Two basic political ideologies: 'Individualism' & 'Collectivism'

Libhater said:
Since the far right favors individual liberty and limited government, the minimum value logically belongs on the right side of the political spectrum. And since the left favors collective rights and virtually unlimited government power and control (which is an understatement), the maximum value logically belongs to the left.

One side favors individual rights and freedoms, starting with anarchism, and liberalism (in moving from right to left). The other (the Left) favors collective "rights" and "freedom," possessed only by groups of people nonexistent for the individual. These are the leftist ideologies of totalitarianism, communism, fascism, and socialism.

These basic facts don't look good for the far left, so they have to constantly work to confuse the issue. This is why the co-opted deceptive words like "liberal" and "progressive: because the people won't support them if they knew the truth.

In the Federalist, Eleanor Bartow made the case that we should not call the "left-liberal-progressives" liberals any longer, but we should call them leftists for "They are Intolerant, Divisive, and Anti-Liberty. She makes the point that authoritarians of the far-left are only trying to confuse the issue with their false "liberal" label.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/03/stop_conflating_leftists_with_liberals.html


As I've mentioned many times before on these forums, 'Classical Liberalism' is the exact opposite of today's left wing version of that 'liberal' term. There's nothing liberating about being a leftist. Absolutely NOTHING, and thus, my anti leftist liberalism moniker is a great sign for those who want to know the truth about the sad state of affairs that the leftist political party is doing to we freedom loving Americans and to America itself.
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So much idiocy from another "Merican thunker."
Politics is not individual rights vs collective rights. Read Locke. The minute we create any government we are giving up individual rights. The court system, the legislature and the Executive branch means we are a group that has given up individual rights to live together.

Totalitarianism is not a leftist government. Totalitarians come from the left and the right. Claiming they come only from the left only shows someone has no brain.

This is just another biased attempt to claim, "Everything I hate must be on the left." It shows an intellectual laziness and a refusal to examine one's own beliefs.
 
Libhater said:
Okay smarty, tell us how those words are fucked up? You certainly aren't suggesting that the leftist fascists/commies etc. are the people who favor individual liberty, now are you?
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That is an easy one.
Why is the right trying to ban books?
Why is the right trying to control women's bodies by banning abortion?
Clearly they are not for individualism as claimed by the author.
The right isn't for individualism. They are for trying to make the collective be like they are.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
That is an easy one.
Why is the right trying to ban books?
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They're not. Why does the fascist left lie about everything?

Why is the right trying to control women's bodies by banning abortion?
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Why do Nazi democrats kill the most defenseless members of society? Because they can't fight back? Civilized societies don't allow people to kill humans at will.

I know the left opposes all civil rights, but why do you deprive those who have committed no crime of their life, without any sort of due process - at the same time you protect the most violent criminals, murders and rapists?

Clearly they are not for individualism as claimed by the author.
The right isn't for individualism. They are for trying to make the collective be like they are.
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Abortion deprives an individual of life, without due process. No one can support individualism without opposing the ghoul agenda of unrestricted abortion.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
They're not. Why does the fascist left lie about everything?



Why do Nazi democrats kill the most defenseless members of society? Because they can't fight back? Civilized societies don't allow people to kill humans at will.

I know the left opposes all civil rights, but why do you deprive those who have committed no crime of their life, without any sort of due process - at the same time you protect the most violent criminals, murders and rapists?



Abortion deprives an individual of life, without due process. No one can support individualism without opposing the ghoul agenda of unrestricted abortion.
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Your denial of reality is so cute. Bless your heart.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
What book has been banned by the right?

Of course none have, you're lying for your party - as drones of the Nazi democrat party do.
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And if there was a book banned by the right, it would be a book showing pictures of disturbed trannies flashing their privates
and spewing their gender disturbing rhetoric at books designed to be read by kids in grades K-6. Leftists will never admit of
just how disturbing and destructive their marxist/immoral teachings are to our youth. In fact, they (leftists) support all of this woke
nonsense.
 
Libhater said:
And if there was a book banned by the right, it would be a book showing pictures of disturbed trannies flashing their privates
and spewing their gender disturbing rhetoric at books designed to be read by kids in grades K-6. Leftists will never admit of
just how disturbing and destructive their marxist/immoral teachings are to our youth. In fact, they (leftists) support all of this woke
nonsense.
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It's just the lie of the day. If an inappropriate book is removed from the curriculum, the fascists lie that the book was "banned," despite the fact that the book is still widely availible in both libraries and bookstores.

Because the DNC media is utterly corrupt, they repeat these lies knowing that outrageous lies repeated are usually accepted by the public as truth.

The fascist democrats are utterly Goebbelsesq in thier perversion of reality and distortion of facts.
 
Libhater said:
And if there was a book banned by the right, it would be a book showing pictures of disturbed trannies flashing their privates
and spewing their gender disturbing rhetoric at books designed to be read by kids in grades K-6. Leftists will never admit of
just how disturbing and destructive their marxist/immoral teachings are to our youth. In fact, they (leftists) support all of this woke
nonsense.
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LOL. I guess you decided to prove that the author was wrong and that righties are not really about individualism but want the collective to be like them or else.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
It's just the lie of the day. If an inappropriate book is removed from the curriculum, the fascists lie that the book was "banned," despite the fact that the book is still widely availible in both libraries and bookstores.

Because the DNC media is utterly corrupt, they repeat these lies knowing that outrageous lies repeated are usually accepted by the public as truth.

The fascist democrats are utterly Goebbelsesq in thier perversion of reality and distortion of facts.
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Why would a book need to be removed from the curriculum if you are all for individualism? Shouldn't the teacher be the one to decide instead of the collective?
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
LOL. I guess you decided to prove that the author was wrong and that righties are not really about individualism but want the collective to be like them or else.
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The righties are not just about individualism, but they are also for morality, and for the teaching of our youth writing and reading, and not teaching them the LEFT's disturbing X-rated adult material. You leftists show zero concern for our youth, for their parents and most of all show zero interest in life itself by allowing pro abortion/murder to decimate our population in general.
 
Libhater said:
The righties are not just about individualism, but they are also for morality, and for the teaching of our youth writing and reading, and not teaching them the LEFT's disturbing X-rated adult material. You leftists show zero concern for our youth, for their parents and most of all show zero interest in life itself by allowing pro abortion/murder to decimate our population in general.
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wow, abortion
 
Libhater said:
The righties are not just about individualism, but they are also for morality, and for the teaching of our youth writing and reading, and not teaching them the LEFT's disturbing X-rated adult material. You leftists show zero concern for our youth, for their parents and most of all show zero interest in life itself by allowing pro abortion/murder to decimate our population in general.
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What are describing is collectivism when you start dictating what the youth will be taught.
You can't claim you are all about individualism when you fight against individuals you don't like.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Why would a book need to be removed from the curriculum if you are all for individualism?
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Grooming is the agenda of the fascist democrat.

"Age appropriate" is a concept those seeking to end the Constitutional Republic by destroying the fabric of society reject.

Yes, democrats want "Hustler" in kindergarten classrooms and hardcore porn shown to 1st graders.

Shouldn't the teacher be the one to decide instead of the collective?
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Nazis want the agent of the state, rather than the individual parents to make such decisions. But as already noted, the goal of democrats is to end the Constitutional Republic in favor of a fascist globalist dictatorship led by Communist China.
 
Libhater said:
The righties are not just about individualism, but they are also for morality, and for the teaching of our youth writing and reading, and not teaching them the LEFT's disturbing X-rated adult material. You leftists show zero concern for our youth, for their parents and most of all show zero interest in life itself by allowing pro abortion/murder to decimate our population in general.
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Letting teachers, as agents of the state, dictate what moral values children have instead of parents is the opposite of "individualism."

We must remember that for democrats, the party is mother, the party is father - all must serve the party.

Standard Disclaimer: Vlad Lenin coined the party shit - as one of the 5 saints of the democrats. Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. Everything democrats promote today came from one or more of these 5.
 
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