Witness says Jordan Neely started making death threats against passengers
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Retired Teacher
What is the "point of violence"? And at what point during this individual's raging tirade was there ever a chance to offer this person food? Most ridiculous post I've seen in a long time.... Excuse me sir...can I offer you a granola bar? Seriously? Many not having compassion for the mentally ill...including this individual's family... prior to this incident is the problem... He should have been in jail or a facility getting treatment...or at home, getting help from his family....
ExpressLane
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Facts??? Like what?
christiefan915
Catalyst
Exactly. And why put him in a chokehold until he died? Why not just call 911 and restrain him another way? Not that I know for certain he needed to be restrained.
Is restraining a child abductor vigilante justice?
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
black, homeless, autistic guy with a record of violent assault and battery who was stopped in the act of doing it again.......this is Bragg's fault, not the guy under arrest.......
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Retired Teacher
At the time, they didn't know he had a record...they just knew there was a situation that was out of control...When someone says screams they're not afraid to die, that needs to be handled...
No one is celebrating the death of this man...but it's impossible to tell what might have happened if people hadn't stepped up...He had hurt many others before....It's very possible he would have done so again...
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
you are right.....Babbit had no arrest record and wasn't threatening anyone......she also didn't die from a choke hold......she died from a bullet in the throat, fired without warning......her killer was a coward, Neely's was a hero.......lots of differences.....
I’m pretty sure Marines with his extensive training are taught the purpose of the particular hold he used on Neely. If he received training, he had to know when to let go or use another hold.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Every time a black guy gets killed, cons always say he should have listened to the cops, not run away, keep hands up, kneel on the ground etc. Why aren't you saying that about Babbitt? She and the others were kicking the door and breaking windows despite the cops telling them to stop. Why is this acceptable to you?
Yup one died while being restrained with no intent to kill him
One died by having her neck blowed apart..with clear intent to kill
christiefan915
Catalyst
His past actions were unknown at the time of this incident. And even if they were known, what about the rule of law?
Exactly, Penny had no prior knowledge of Neely, even then he didn’t deserve to die.
The actions of a man with a gun running through a mall parking lot are also unknown
He didn't need to know his past all he needed to know was that he was making threats at the present time
If someone is screaming threats at Biden or Pelosi you damn well know they would be body slammed and restrained... If they died during the process nothing much would be made about it
Lesson is don't make threats
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Retired Teacher
Correct...violent threats and throwing garbage.... It is Very likely that Daniel Penny's intent was to subdue him so that he didn't harm others...or himself...
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christiefan915
Catalyst
This man had no weapons and was not threatening the riders individually. He was mentally ill and ranting. Penny could have dialed 911 and had cops waiting at the next stop but he didn't, and now he's facing charges.