Trump workers moved Mar-a-Lago boxes a day before Justice Dept. came for documents

Tinkerpeach said:
The president can declassify anything he wants so prosecuting him for having classified documents will never work
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- The President CAN declassify anything he wants... TRUE.

- The President CANNOT take anything he wants that he does not declassify simply because he could have declassified if he wanted to ... TRUE.

- Even if declassified (which they were not) they are still government documents that the POTUS cannot take without getting approval first... True


Result, even if declassified (they were not) Trump had no legal right to take them and is breaking the law in doing so. FACT.
 
Earl said:
They weren’t declassified until Trump declassified them.

The Hildabeast had actual classified documents that were not declassified by her (she couldn’t declassify them because she wasn’t president) and she ignored a subpoena that was issued before she had the hard drive “bleached” which is a clear case of obstruction of Justice.

She wasn’t prosecuted and Trump will not be prosecuted…equal treatment under the law.
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except it is a lie to say Trump declassified them, when he did not.
 
Anthony Weiner, the pervert, had Hillary’s classified documents on his computer.

No prosecution…equal treatment under the law.
 
ExpressLane said:
Trump had the power to declassifly. ...
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Sure.

But the problem is having the power to do something is not the same as doing that thing.

We know that Trump DID NOT declassify them, despite having the power to do so, and that is criminal and needs to be prosecuted.

Plus even if declassified they are still government docs and he still cannot take them as that is still against the law.

here is something Trumpderps cannot comprehend... 'classification of the documents is irrelevant to the legality of taking them or not'. 'Classification' may add secondary crimes ON TOP of the crime of taking gov't docs. Trump broke numerous laws here.
 
Earl said:
No, the documents were declassified.
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No, in FACT, they were not.

Stop lying.



Earl said:
Anthony Weiner, the pervert, had Hillary’s classified documents on his computer.

No prosecution…equal treatment under the law.
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I like this new admission that 'Trump is guilty but so too was Hilary so that is why he should walk'.


Yes your honor, I did steal, but so did others who got away with it, therefore this court should not prosecute any thefts.

Case closed.

Only Trumpderps think that defense makes sense. FLOL.
 
QP! said:
No, in FACT, they were not.

Stop lying.
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The president has the power to declassify, he said he declassified them.

Trump says he declassified Mar-a-Lago documents. ...

NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com › politics › donald-trump › tr...
Aug 12, 2022 — Allies of former President Donald Trump say that any sensitive White House documents he brought with him to his Mar-a-Lago estate had been declassified.

Stop lying.
 
The Hildabeast was guilty of storing classified documents on her server and destroying the hard drive and ignoring a subpoena before she destroyed the hard drive.

A clear case of obstruction of evidence and obstruction vofcjustice.
 
Earl said:
He declassified them.
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Except he did and this a lie.

It is Trumps own White House who prove that a lie based on precedent. Mark Meadows and Trumps own WH counsel, he sent in to court 3 times to say

- 'even when Trump says something is declassified or writes something is declassified, it is not UNLESS Trump and the WH actually follow thru and do the REQUIRED process to actually declassify them. If we do not, then all the material remains classified'.


Read that again and understand it. Trump had his own team go in to court 3 times to stop journalists getting material via FOIA that Trump had stated on TV or wrote on Twitter that he had declassified them. In all 3 court cases when the Trump admin did not want to hand that material over to the media, they argues successfully in court that Trumps words alone or writing alone was not in FACT sufficient to declassify them. And they WON in court all three times. The court found none of them were declassified and the media could not have them.

That is with clear statements from Trump they were declassified but with no process follow thru they were not.


- James Madison Project v. U.S. Dep't of Justice
- LEOPOLD et al v. U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE et al, No. 1:2019cv01278 - Document 86 (D.D.C. 2020)
- The New York Times, et al., v. Central Intelligence Agency




In this current instance there is no statement, no writing, just a claim he COULD declassify with NO PROCESS followed. Much weaker than above when Trump himself sent Mark Meadows to block the Media getting the info having Mark Meadows argue in court, just because POTUS said it or wrote it DOES NOT mean it is actually declassified as he DID NOT do the follow on required steps.

And in each case the Trump WH team won in court, saying Trumps words and writings were NOT enough and thus nothing, in FACT, was declassified.
 
Earl said:
The president has the power to declassify, he said he declassified them.

Trump says he declassified Mar-a-Lago documents. ...

NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com › politics › donald-trump › tr...
Aug 12, 2022 — Allies of former President Donald Trump say that any sensitive White House documents he brought with him to his Mar-a-Lago estate had been declassified.

Stop lying.
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Having 'the power' does not mean he used the power properly.

He DID NOT. See post above and stop lying.
 
BidenPresident said:
Two of Donald Trump’s employees moved boxes of papers the day before FBI agents and a prosecutor visited the former president’s Florida home to retrieve classified documents in response to a subpoena — timing that investigators have come to view as suspicious and an indication of possible obstruction, according to people familiar with the matter.

Trump and his aides also allegedly carried out a “dress rehearsal” for moving sensitive papers even before his office received the May 2022 subpoena, according to the people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a sensitive ongoing investigation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/05/25/trump-classified-documents-mar-a-lago/
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It's obvious to all but the diehard Trumpanzees (like pEarl who gave you one of his impotent groans) that the #TreasonousTyrant deliberately stole the documents and intended to keep them.
 
Earl said:
Anthony Weiner, the pervert, had Hillary’s classified documents on his computer.

No prosecution…equal treatment under the law.
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Anthony Weiner — the former New York congressman whose career and marriage were wrecked by sexting scandals — sobbed Monday as a federal judge sentenced him to nearly two years in prison for X-rated communication with a 15-year-old girl.
Sept. 25, 2017

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...arly-two-years-prison-sexting-scandal-n803906
 
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