War Isn't Free!

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Here's the thing you stupid socialist fuck, you can't tax your way to prosperity! The more you impose an income tax on wealthy people, the less motivated wealthy people are to make money! Don't you get it? Rich people are not like the middle class, they don't have to earn an income... they are wealthy! You raise their taxes all you want to, and watch them find new ways to hide their money and avoid earning a taxable income!

They can hide their money and they can go to jail, just like any other common thief or traitor.

The wealthy do not contribute to the society. I'd be more interested in rewarding the middle class more so that they can be more inclined to get to the top of society as well. Currently, no matter what they do, all their cash goes to non-productive members of society.

 

[Beefy]

Here's the thing you stupid socialist fuck, you can't tax your way to prosperity!

No, but you sure can spend your way to it! Even if it means borrowing against our next generations future. Remember? It wasn't that long ago you were cheerleading the then biggest deficits ever because there were Republicans at the helm. That's why you're still running around proclaiming the Bush yeas as the good old days, when the financing was blowing up the popped bubble that is now fucking over the economy. Yep, you sure loved that shit then, hmmmmmm, I wonder why now you're suddenly pretending to care about big government? Hmmmmm.

The more you impose an income tax on wealthy people, the less motivated wealthy people are to make money! Don't you get it? Rich people are not like the middle class, they don't have to earn an income... they are wealthy! You raise their taxes all you want to, and watch them find new ways to hide their money and avoid earning a taxable income!

YES!!! That's why we don't impose the TAX! (Snicker). We just borrow the money from other governments and print more and more, and everything will be okay!

Why don't you get real you total fool? Why don't you call bullshit bullshit? Why does it take another party to open your eyes you hypocrite? You didn't give a fucking damn for 6 years, and now you're feigning surprise when the Democrats turn into an even bigger spending disaster than your beloved Republicans?

Well newsflash, government never shrinks, and parties change power cyclically. There really is only 1 party, the big government one, and you are a happy lemming, so spare the grief and get the fuck real you lying pussy.

You reap what you sow.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

They can hide their money and they can go to jail, just like any other common thief or traitor.

The wealthy do not contribute to the society. I'd be more interested in rewarding the middle class more so that they can be more inclined to get to the top of society as well. Currently, no matter what they do, all their cash goes to non-productive members of society.

Well no, sorry we don't live in a communist society where you can just take their damn money! You can tax their income, but that's it... if they don't earn any income, you are shit outta luck!

Right now, the wealthy are the ONLY ones contributing to society, they pay the bulk of the taxes.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

No, but you sure can spend your way to it! Even if it means borrowing against our next generations future. Remember? It wasn't that long ago you were cheerleading the then biggest deficits ever because there were Republicans at the helm. That's why you're still running around proclaiming the Bush yeas as the good old days, when the financing was blowing up the popped bubble that is now fucking over the economy. Yep, you sure loved that shit then, hmmmmmm, I wonder why now you're suddenly pretending to care about big government? Hmmmmm.

You're out of your goddamn mind if you thought I was "cheerleading" deficit spending! I never have, and never will, and it doesn't matter what party is in power. I think someone must have dropped you on your goofy head when you were little.

YES!!! That's why we don't impose the TAX! (Snicker). We just borrow the money from other governments and print more and more, and everything will be okay!

Why don't you get real you total fool? Why don't you call bullshit bullshit? Why does it take another party to open your eyes you hypocrite? You didn't give a fucking damn for 6 years, and now you're feigning surprise when the Democrats turn into an even bigger spending disaster than your beloved Republicans?

Well newsflash, government never shrinks, and parties change power cyclically. There really is only 1 party, the big government one, and you are a happy lemming, so spare the grief and get the fuck real you lying pussy.

You reap what you sow.

Again, you are as full of shit as a Christmas turkey! I've N-E-V-E-R advocated or endorsed deficit spending in ANY way shape or form! I railed on Bush NUMEROUS times about his spending! That, along with his soft position on illegal immigration, were my two pet peeves with Bush! Go read the threads from that period if you don't believe me! If you can find ONE example of me applauding Bush's deficit spending, please post it here! You are completely out of your mind!

 

[Beefy]

You're out of your goddamn mind if you thought I was "cheerleading" deficit spending! I never have, and never will, and it doesn't matter what party is in power. I think someone must have dropped you on your goofy head when you were little.



Again, you are as full of shit as a Christmas turkey! I've N-E-V-E-R advocated or endorsed deficit spending in ANY way shape or form! I railed on Bush NUMEROUS times about his spending! That, along with his soft position on illegal immigration, were my two pet peeves with Bush! Go read the threads from that period if you don't believe me! If you can find ONE example of me applauding Bush's deficit spending, please post it here! You are completely out of your mind!

It wasn't so much of a cheerleading of it, I stand corrected. But it was you letting it slide. You never ever got pissed off about it. You always disclaimed it. Bush is DOING HIS BEST!!1! The WARS COST MONEY!!!

You didn't care about it with any vehemence until your party lost power. Now you care. Right.

Sure Dix.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

It wasn't so much of a cheerleading of it, I stand corrected. But it was you letting it slide. You never ever got pissed off about it. You always disclaimed it. Bush is DOING HIS BEST!!1! The WARS COST MONEY!!!

You didn't care about it with any vehemence until your party lost power. Now you care. Right.

Sure Dix.

I didn't oppose taking military action to protect vital US national security because it cost money... NO! Is that what you meant by me cheerleading Bush spending? Give me a fucking break!

I raised tee-total hell about TSA, Dept. of Homeland Security, the Pill Bill, even the damn Education Bill! Bush outspent the previous two Democrat presidents in social programs, and I railed on him for that. Where the fuck were you?

 

[Beefy]

I didn't oppose taking military action to protect vital US national security because it cost money... NO! Is that what you meant by me cheerleading Bush spending? Give me a fucking break!

I raised tee-total hell about TSA, Dept. of Homeland Security, the Pill Bill, even the damn Education Bill! Bush outspent the previous two Democrat presidents in social programs, and I railed on him for that. Where the fuck were you?

Yeah, you were tea totaling alright. You once in a while said "gee, it would be nice if we weren't spending so much, but....."

And at half a trillion a year in military spending anyhow, you would think that would cover the cost of WHAT WE FUND THE MILITARY FOR YOU FOOL!

Half a trillion just to sit the fuck around? No thanks.

Mr. Big Government Republican.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Well if all you're going to do is mope around with sour grapes in your mouth about the Iraq war, we're done here. As I said, I never supported or condoned Bush's spending, I railed on it constantly. If you have the emotional need to lash out at me some more about the war, go ahead and get it out of your system... get it all out! I hope it makes you feel better!

I can't personally do anything about the war, I couldn't do anything about it back when it happened, it's not something I have any control over, and I never have. I did support the president AND CONGRESS when they decided to authorize military force in Iraq, and I make no apologies for that. 25 million Iraqi people are enjoying freedom today because of what we did, and I am proud of our soldiers for that. If you want to continue being bitter and sore about it, that is something you will have to deal with... as I said, you want to take it out on me? Go ahead, I hope you feel better!

 

[Beefy]

Well if all you're going to do is mope around with sour grapes in your mouth about the Iraq war, we're done here. As I said, I never supported or condoned Bush's spending, I railed on it constantly. If you have the emotional need to lash out at me some more about the war, go ahead and get it out of your system... get it all out! I hope it makes you feel better!

I can't personally do anything about the war, I couldn't do anything about it back when it happened, it's not something I have any control over, and I never have. I did support the president AND CONGRESS when they decided to authorize military force in Iraq, and I make no apologies for that. 25 million Iraqi people are enjoying freedom today because of what we did, and I am proud of our soldiers for that. If you want to continue being bitter and sore about it, that is something you will have to deal with... as I said, you want to take it out on me? Go ahead, I hope you feel better!

Lamest retort I've ever seen from you. And that's saying a lot. A lot.

Its not about the war, its about the vehicles of spending that you condone, the vehicles of spending that you cheer on depending on what party occupies the whitehouse. Suddenly now you're sensitive to spending issues.

Laughable. Partisan hackery got us into this mess, and it sure as hell isn't going to get us out of it.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Lamest retort I've ever seen from you. And that's saying a lot. A lot.

Its not about the war, its about the vehicles of spending that you condone, the vehicles of spending that you cheer on depending on what party occupies the whitehouse. Suddenly now you're sensitive to spending issues.

Laughable. Partisan hackery got us into this mess, and it sure as hell isn't going to get us out of it.

Beefbrain, I have NEVER advocated deficit spending. Not with a Republican administration, not with a Democrat administration! Since Ronald Reagan, I have consistently supported a balanced budget amendment to the constitution! I have repeatedly posted here and on other boards, about our national debt, and the burden of the interest on the debt.

Now I have no idea where you get that I have been partisan about this, or where you think I have advocated spending money we don't have for things a Republican president wants to do. I simply haven't done so! You can keep LYING and SLANDERING me, and you can continue CLAIMING falsely, that I have done this, but you haven't presented ANYTHING to support your lie!

 

[signalmankenneth]

No, here is what we're going to do.... The cost of these wars will be deducted from social entitlement programs, and the additional 30,000 troops needed for Afghanistan, will come from the ranks of chicken shit anti-war liberals like yourself. We'll send you over there to be cannon fodder for the next couple of years before we turn tail and run. This became YOUR president's war in January, but you've not stopped complaining to US about it! By god, call the mutherfucker up and ask him why the hell we haven't withdrawn from BOTH wars... YESTERDAY! It's not MY fault we are still there, stop complaining to ME!

Bah Humbug Indeed! Yeah lets cut social programs in this time of need to fund a couple of wars?! What about ending those Bush tax cuts for the rich, right now and end that middle class tax cut they got back earlier this year?!

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Taxation can never be robbery. This was the tax rate at America's greatest time. The income tax revenues that did go up in Reagan's time only went up because the rich were making so much money by ROBBING the American worker. In previous times, that money that goes to huge hudnred million dollar golden parachutes went to the workers, because the government simply made it retarded to pay non-productive citizens billions of dollars. We need to return to that, and give money back to the people who deserve it.

watermark, that is a pretty naive view of taxation and its history throughout various civilizations....taxation has in fact been viewed as robbery numerous times....it wasn't the tax rate at america's greatest time, it was for a short time, but not always....what about the 90's...tax rate was not that high and some believe that was a great time. further, if you're trying to create correlation, you're wrong.

even when the tax rate was higher, it didn't go to the worker back then....what government programs existed back then? nothing as extensive as exists now, yet our tax rates our lower. it is absolutely false to claim the money went back to the people. it is also false to claim those making millions are non-productive.

good lord dude...even if we took all the hundred million dollar golden parachutes away, you're talking maybe, maybe 1 billion a year max and in reality more like a couple hundred million. that is absolutely nothing in terms of our economy....people with money create jobs, if you don't think so, you're a fool....your bigotry of those who make money shows you've never made money.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Bah Humbug Indeed! Yeah lets cut social programs in this time of need to fund a couple of wars?! What about ending those Bush tax cuts for the rich, right now and end that middle class tax cut they got back earlier this year?!

No, I think we should increase tax cuts to the rich. The wars can be easily funded with the money we save from corruption and graft in social entitlement programs we eliminate. If you think people are in need, go give them your money! I have no objections to that! If you are sincere, you will gladly do this, because you realize the need and want to do your part. As a matter of fact, if you are young enough, you should go join the military and help Obama end these wars.

But you see, you don't really give two shits about the needy or wining a war, you are a selfish spoiled little prick who has been given everything in life, and takes it all for granted. All you want to do is bitch, complain, insult, and make noise. You've formed a coalition of other little nitwits like yourself, who want to assuage your discontent by bashing and trashing America and Conservatives, and doing everything you can to destroy capitalism and instill socialism. You're a malcontent. A dishonest, disingenuous do-nothing, who thinks he is owed something by society. Conscientious Americans should just learn to ignore you and marginalize your nitwit coalition.

 

[christiefan915]

No, I think we should increase tax cuts to the rich. The wars can be easily funded with the money we save from corruption and graft in social entitlement programs we eliminate. If you think people are in need, go give them your money! I have no objections to that! If you are sincere, you will gladly do this, because you realize the need and want to do your part. As a matter of fact, if you are young enough, you should go join the military and help Obama end these wars.

But you see, you don't really give two shits about the needy or wining a war, you are a selfish spoiled little prick who has been given everything in life, and takes it all for granted. All you want to do is bitch, complain, insult, and make noise. You've formed a coalition of other little nitwits like yourself, who want to assuage your discontent by bashing and trashing America and Conservatives, and doing everything you can to destroy capitalism and instill socialism. You're a malcontent. A dishonest, disingenuous do-nothing, who thinks he is owed something by society. Conscientious Americans should just learn to ignore you and marginalize your nitwit coalition.

What an insufferable idiot you are. Signalmankenneth is a veteran, not an armchair chickenhawk like so many who populate forums. He already walked the walk and has every right to bash the illegal, immoral war and the corresponding trip to economic hell our former blockhead-in-chief got us into. Why don't you just pack up and move to one of those countries that arrest people for exercising free speech; you've already exceeded your tenure here as their propaganda arm.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

What an insufferable idiot you are. Signalmankenneth is a veteran, not an armchair chickenhawk like so many who populate forums. He already walked the walk and has every right to bash the illegal, immoral war and the corresponding trip to economic hell our former blockhead-in-chief got us into. Why don't you just pack up and move to one of those countries that arrest people for exercising free speech; you've already exceeded your tenure here as their propaganda arm.

I don't believe kenneth is a veteran, I think that is a lie. He tells it so he can have this 'free reign' to bash and trash his government's policies. None of you people tell the truth... you don't pay your taxes... you don't act morally... you don't take responsibility... and you run around accusing others of what you are most guilty of yourself.

I'm not going anywhere, toots! You can call me every name in the book, and throw every insult your perverted little liberal mind can think at me... and I will still be here tomorrow, and the next day, and the next.

 

[Epicurus]

Voluntary government is anarchy, and therefore fascism.

lol you fucking retard do you even listen to yourself anymore?

You are hands down the worst debater on this site now.

 

[christiefan915]

I don't believe kenneth is a veteran, I think that is a lie. He tells it so he can have this 'free reign' to bash and trash his government's policies. None of you people tell the truth... you don't pay your taxes... you don't act morally... you don't take responsibility... and you run around accusing others of what you are most guilty of yourself.

I'm not going anywhere, toots! You can call me every name in the book, and throw every insult your perverted little liberal mind can think at me... and I will still be here tomorrow, and the next day, and the next.

You're wrong. He posted all his service info along with a picture. The problem is that your narrow world view doesn't let you comprehend how an honorable veteran can come back from war and give a realistic portrayal of its horrors. You slam a vet while simultaneously parroting the nasty talking points of bloated chickenhawks like rove and cheney; you repeat the inanities about freedom from dictatorships while criticizing free speech in your own country.

Why don't you post some specifics on how many liberals are lying, immoral, shirking tax cheats...as opposed to conservatives who are the same.

People like you make me sick.

 

[signalmankenneth]

I don't believe kenneth is a veteran, I think that is a lie. He tells it so he can have this 'free reign' to bash and trash his government's policies. None of you people tell the truth... you don't pay your taxes... you don't act morally... you don't take responsibility... and you run around accusing others of what you are most guilty of yourself.

I'm not going anywhere, toots! You can call me every name in the book, and throw every insult your perverted little liberal mind can think at me... and I will still be here tomorrow, and the next day, and the next.

So Dixie, why would I lie about being a Veteran??? I'm a Vietnam War Veteran, 1968-1969!

Units: http://1st_signal_rvn.tripod.com/history.htm

http://www.459thsignal.org/

And the 261th Signal Company! I volunteered to go to Vietnam, I was regular army, not a draftee! Also served in Germany doing the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia, 1968 and in South Korea at Nike Hercules missile sites, 1971-1973! I was a member of The US Army Signal Corps, thats where my screen name, signalmankenneth comes from, because I was One!

So tell me Dixie, about your military service or lack there of???

 

[christiefan915]

So Dixie, why would I lie about being a Veteran??? I'm a Vietnam War Veteran, 1968-1969!

Units: http://1st_signal_rvn.tripod.com/history.htm

http://www.459thsignal.org/

And the 261th Signal Company! I volunteered to go to Vietnam, I was regular army, not a draftee! Also served in Germany doing the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia, 1968 and in South Korea at Nike Hercules missile sites, 1971-1973! I was a member of The US Army Signal Corps, thats where my screen name, signalmankenneth comes from, because I was One!

So tell me Dixie, about your military service or lack there of???

Bump

 

[Sammy Jankis]

You're wrong. He posted all his service info along with a picture. The problem is that your narrow world view doesn't let you comprehend how an honorable veteran can come back from war and give a realistic portrayal of its horrors. You slam a vet while simultaneously parroting the nasty talking points of bloated chickenhawks like rove and cheney; you repeat the inanities about freedom from dictatorships while criticizing free speech in your own country.

Why don't you post some specifics on how many liberals are lying, immoral, shirking tax cheats...as opposed to conservatives who are the same.

People like you make me sick.

Is evince a bloated chickenhawk? We need to kill the afghanis way of life out of them, so they aren't bad, according to evince.