EV owners: "I'LL NEVER OWN A GAS CAR AGAIN." MAGA morons soil diapers.

[Joe Capitalist]

TESLA WAS NAMED THE CHEAPEST LUXURY CAR BRAND TO MAINTAIN, AND THE INTERNET HAS THOUGHTS: ‘I WILL NEVER OWN A GAS CAR AGAIN’. “I haven’t spent a dime in seven years.”
by Laurelle Stelle*/*July 19, 2023

In a recent study by The Clunker Junker, Tesla vehicles claimed the victory of being the cheapest luxury car brand to maintain.
The outlet looked at data from CarEdge about the 185 most popular models in the U.S., covering the last 10 years up to September 2022. It analyzed each car’s maintenance costs over that time period as a percentage of its purchase price and divided the results into standard and luxury categories.

Tesla’s prices put it in the luxury group, where the company’s rock-bottom maintenance costs won the top spot on the chart — not just among electric vehicles, but among all vehicles in that class.
Tesla’s average maintenance cost was 7.09% of the car’s value, compared to 12.28% for the next best, Lexus. The best individual car was a Tesla Model S at 4.58%, followed by the Model X in second place and the Model 3 in fourth.

This is great news for Tesla buyers, who can expect easy maintenance over their next decade of driving. It’s also good news for reducing pollution in our communities. Because they don’t use gasoline, electric vehicles reduce the need for extensive oil drilling that pollutes nearby water and soil, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

EVs also don’t give off toxic exhaust or heat-trapping gases like combustion engines do, as the EPA notes. This is healthy for our planet and lungs in general, and for the improvement of city air quality in particular, so even the average person on the street will benefit as more drivers switch to EVs.

 

[Nordberg]

The experts on EVs seem to be ICE lovers who hate electric cars with a passion. We are supposed to think they are offering fair and honest opinions. They are not. EVs are better in every way. They are getting even better. They are solving the long-road trucking too.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

The experts on EVs seem to be ICE lovers who hate electric cars with a passion. We are supposed to think they are offering fair and honest opinions. They are not. EVs are better in every way. They are getting even better. They are solving the long-road trucking too.

Yep, EV technology will continue to improve every year. We'll get smaller, lighter batteries with longer range that will charge faster and last longer. Imagine having an EV that has a 500 mile range with a 300k battery lifespan and can re-charge in 10 minutes.
It's gonna happen I bet in the next 5-10 years.

It's going to get to the point where ICE cars just are no longer practical.

 

[Nordberg]

Some states will lag behind in EV infrastructure. In their cases, EVs will not be practical until they catch up. Eventually, they will. Some EV manufacturers are talking about 900 mi range. Range anxiety has to be eliminated.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Some states will lag behind in EV infrastructure. In their cases, EVs will not be practical until they catch up. Eventually, they will. Some EV manufacturers are talking about 900 mi range. Range anxiety has to be eliminated.

Methinks the biggest obstacle is charging times. Under 10 minutes should be the goal.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Pretty much every new car requires no maintenance in it's first seven years lol.

The occasional oil change or filling of some fluids is about it.

That's the same for EV's though.

 

[QP!]

Methinks the biggest obstacle is charging times. Under 10 minutes should be the goal.

The vast, VAST, majority of commuter trips by EV owners are inner city work, home, local errand type trips.

The people i know who have owned Tesla's for many model generations now, have only need to seek a charger outside their home a handful of times, even when work chargers are plentiful. It is the few 'road trips' they may take every few years instead of an 'away trip' requiring a flight. These people have forgotten what paying for gas is like which is a massive savings often not calculated in the true cost of driving an ICE vehicle.

I would say that applies to the vast, VAST majority of citizens who currently do not own EV's. They would massively benefit in cash savings by getting an EV, never (almost never) have to charge outside home (or work) and they would be helping the planet.

I think some 80% of the driving populace would be benefit greatly from owning an EV.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

The vast, VAST, majority of commuter trips by EV owners are inner city work, home, local errand type trips.

The people i know who have owned Tesla's for many model generations now, have only need to seek a charger outside their home a handful of times, even when work chargers are plentiful. It is the few 'road trips' they may take every few years instead of an 'away trip' requiring a flight. These people have forgotten what paying for gas is like which is a massive savings often not calculated in the true cost of driving an ICE vehicle.

I would say that applies to the vast, VAST majority of citizens who currently do not own EV's. They would massively benefit in cash savings by getting an EV, never (almost never) have to charge outside home (or work) and they would be helping the planet.

I think some 80% of the driving populace would be benefit greatly from owning an EV.

This is true. I've owned my Tesla Model Y for two years now and I could count on one hand the number of times I've used a charger outside of my garage.

It truly is Wonderful to charge my car in my garage and no longer visit a gas station with its spilled gas and noxious fumes. The only problem is, now my wife wants an EV and so do my children.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

The vast, VAST, majority of commuter trips by EV owners are inner city work, home, local errand type trips.

The people i know who have owned Tesla's for many model generations now, have only need to seek a charger outside their home a handful of times, even when work chargers are plentiful. It is the few 'road trips' they may take every few years instead of an 'away trip' requiring a flight. These people have forgotten what paying for gas is like which is a massive savings often not calculated in the true cost of driving an ICE vehicle.

I would say that applies to the vast, VAST majority of citizens who currently do not own EV's. They would massively benefit in cash savings by getting an EV, never (almost never) have to charge outside home (or work) and they would be helping the planet.

I think some 80% of the driving populace would be benefit greatly from owning an EV.

What if you live in an apartment building?

Most people don't live in houses you know.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

I'm not claiming that switching to electric cars isn't essential to the environment,
although if we're being honest, it's probably too late to save the environment anyway.

I'm just saying that I like powerful gasoline engines, end of story.
Electric cars are blah to me, necessary or not.

 

[QP!]

What if you live in an apartment building?

Most people don't live in houses you know.

Most condo's and apartments in urban areas and have chargers or more chargers available in the area and as more EV's come in and that is a 'selling point' to occupant, they will add more and more chargers to attract the occupants to their buildings.

As i said, 'the vast, VAST, majority' of daily work commuter types would benefit from an EV where they cold charge at home or at the office, once there, as most would need to charge even once per day, most times.

Most people's day is work and back, and then short trip errands like groceries, Dr' appointment, etc.


For the small percent that is not ideal for a hybrid would solve their problems.

 

[evince]

Some states will lag behind in EV infrastructure. In their cases, EVs will not be practical until they catch up. Eventually, they will. Some EV manufacturers are talking about 900 mi range. Range anxiety has to be eliminated.

National infrastructure spending can solve that quickly

 

[evince]

I'm not claiming that switching to electric cars isn't essential to the environment,
although if we're being honest, it's probably too late to save the environment anyway.

I'm just saying that I like powerful gasoline engines, end of story.
Electric cars are blah to me, necessary or not.

And you don’t have many years left on the planet

 

[evince]

What if you live in an apartment building?

Most people don't live in houses you know.

Infrastructure spending can easily solve that

 

[evince]

This is true. I've owned my Tesla Model Y for two years now and I could could on one hand the number of times I've used a charger outside of my garage.

It truly is Wonderful to charge my car in my garage and no longer visit a gas station with its spilled gas and noxious fumes. The only problem is, now my wife wants an EV and so do my children.

Precharged battery stations that offer a switch out of your battery

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Infrastructure spending can easily solve that

But it isn't solved yet is it?

 

[Joe Capitalist]

I'm not claiming that switching to electric cars isn't essential to the environment,
although if we're being honest, it's probably too late to save the environment anyway.

I'm just saying that I like powerful gasoline engines, end of story.
Electric cars are blah to me, necessary or not.

If you don't think electric cars are powerful, you've never driven an electric car.

 

[QP!]

Precharged battery stations that offer a switch out of your battery

What we must consider is EV technology is still very early and moving into true mass production stage where the most technological breakthru's and advancements happen.

Current battery tech sees the Ion batteries need to recharge ~300-400 miles driven and the early versions of the Solid State batteries are looking to get ~500 Milles+ before needing a recharge.

For most people that would mean they do not need to recharge each day (40-60 miles a day driven) and maybe only need to recharge each week.



With all major manufacturers now moving into EV's in a major way, the push for advancements in technology, across the board is going to soar.

it will be very unlikely that ICE vehicle will hold any advantages, after a few more generations of EV's, other than sentiment, which is fine, but will have shrinking appeal to younger and younger buyers.

 

[evince]

What we must consider is EV technology is still very early and moving into true mass production stage where the most technological breakthru's and advancements happen.

Current battery tech sees the Ion batteries need to recharge ~300-400 miles driven and the early versions of the Solid State batteries are looking to get ~500 Milles+ before needing a recharge.

For most people that would mean they do not need to recharge each day (40-60 miles a day driven) and maybe only need to recharge each week.



With all major manufacturers now moving into EV's in a major way, the push for advancements in technology, across the board is going to soar.

it will be very unlikely that ICE vehicle will hold any advantages, after a few more generations of EV's, other than sentiment, which is fine, but will have shrinking appeal to younger and younger buyers.

And the older models still on the street can switch out precharged batteries

 

[QP!]

But it isn't solved yet is it?

Why would it be when we are just at the very beginnings of the EV mass production age?

China is the only place I know of that proactively builds out infrastructure under the belief they will grow into quickly (entire cities built for tech growth that are now ghost towns), whereas most infrastructure today, in more mature nations plays a catch up game, waiting for clear demand and then building it in.


For most private buildings, it will merely become something of competitive advantage and first and then competitive necessity. Walmart offers lots of chargers to attract people to show up and shop while they charge. Similarly condo's and apartments will find the earliest adopters will gain advantage by having abundant chargers, and then they will find they lose lots of customers if they do not have them. Much like providing parking and underground parking all attract customers.