As student scores plummet, teachers unions play politics and make them worse

Really, anyone who questions our education system or how we deliver it is now a demogauge?

That’s one way to try and shut down discussion. Not quite as powerful as calling someone a racist but still solid.

Didn’t say that, not questions, but attacks, as the topic thread does, and when soaked with political overtones, threatens the very instrument of education, the teachers

Always find it humorous how there are an estimated three half million public school teachers in the US and right wingers, cause it is usually right wingers, will herald an instance or two where teachers are abusing the system, generalize it, and imply it applies to education across the country
 
Masking and closing the schools has been catastrophic for the kids, all very foreseeable.

The adults did not give a fuck.
 
I can’t speak to nationally but in the Bay Area they’ve had progressives go after the police unions because the reality is the police unions are the barriers to legislative change which people think will hold cops more accountable.

They demogauges as well? Is there nuance?

Don’t know the circumstances, but off hand, I’d say the criticism is unwarranted, and teacher unions are not barriers to legislative change to hold teachers more accountable
 
No one is forcing them into teaching or being teachers. Maybe it's a case of

Labor unions, and I'd put teacher's unions in that category rather than professional and trade unions where they have standards their members have to met, are about one thing, and one thing only: How much money can they squeeze out of the companies and employers they work for.

Nobody forces anyone into any profession, and teachers have standards they have to meet, certification, which implies at least a four year college degree plus passing State certification tests
 
Unions don’t dictate what is taught or how it is taught, they can recommend, but they are there to serve the teachers labor issues

Unions however will fight to keep a mediocre, incompetent, or troublemaking teacher in their job. NYC for years had "rubber rooms" to put these teachers in where they did nothing all day but collect a paycheck.

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The disgraceful state of our school system in entirely the fault of the Stalin-o-crats, and their agents the teachers, where getting money for the union and DNC have long been the main goals.

And now, as our students flounder with STEM as well as simple reading, slociaql sexual and racial indoctrination are what is being foisted on ouir children, against the wishes of their parents.



As student scores plummet, teachers unions play politics and make them worse

Opinion by Washington Examiner




After another summer of radical activity from the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers, Congress should revoke the unique federal charter of the former, and federal agencies should ensure both groups comply fully with labor laws.

Both unions long ago abandoned their proper missions, namely ensuring reasonable working conditions for school staff. Both now are avatars of the extreme Left, focused less on educational attainment than on partisan political activism and radical social crusades.

Witness the major summer conferences of each organization this year. As highlighted in a new report by the Defense of Freedom Institute, the teachers unions keep pushing contentious racial and gender agendas, try to conceal what they are really doing, seek to block parental involvement in education, and push disciplinary laxity at the cost of classroom safety. The Aug. 16 report, called “Summer of Woke, the Sequel,” details a litany of the unions’ conference obsessions that militate against the interests and views of large majorities of parents. The NEA openly advocates violations of Titles VI and VII of the Civil Rights Act by advocating hiring preferences based on race and gender while literally opposing “employment practices that treat people equally regardless of ethnicity or gender.”

This all comes at the expense of a focus on improving teaching, which should be the top priority after recent calamitous drops in national education scores. Consider a resolution on transgender issues that the AFT passed; it advocates “inclusive policies relating to … bathrooms and locker rooms.” It also commits the union and its teachers to work with activist groups that, among other things, demand that staff should avoid telling parents when calling students by “pronouns” that do not fit their biological sex.

The NEA this year released a “Pronoun Guide” listing the “most common pronouns the non-words “ze,” “zim,” “zir” “zirs,” and “zerself” in lieu of he, him, her, hers, and herself. This isn’t a joke. The unions want to fill children's heads with nonsense instead of teaching them English. One of the NEA's summer sessions, according to the think tank’s report, “argues that ‘cisnormativity,’ the assumption that people’s gender identity matches their biological sex, ‘can be limiting for [differently gendered people] … and cisgender folks alike.” Schoolchildren should be learning facts, the truth, what is what, at school. They should not be told a pack of ideological lies.













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Poor parenting is the main reason for poor school performance.

Your DFI is a home school proponent. A real shocker they denigrate public schools and teachers.

Funny, during the pandemic when schools were closed, how the right started screaming how badly they needed to schools to reopen. They realized what fucked up little shits they had at home. How short their memories are. Like goldfish.
 
If it weren’t for the Union teachers would be totally helpless, only employed upon the whims of the politicians, and I wouldn’t hold Steve Jobs as an oracle on life in general let alone education of children

Referencing Steve Jobs on that subject is called Appeal to Authority, a fallacy.
 
Unions however will fight to keep a mediocre, incompetent, or troublemaking teacher in their job. NYC for years had "rubber rooms" to put these teachers in where they did nothing all day but collect a paycheck.

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Thanks for proving my point

Always find it humorous how there are an estimated three half million public school teachers in the US, over 75,000 in NYC, and right wingers, cause it is usually right wingers, will herald an instance or two where teachers are abusing the system, generalize it, and imply it applies to education across the country

What got, twenty or so in this room? Thanks
 
Thanks for proving my point

Always find it humorous how there are an estimated three half million public school teachers in the US, over 75,000 in NYC, and right wingers, cause it is usually right wingers, will herald an instance or two where teachers are abusing the system, generalize it, and imply it applies to education across the country

What got, twenty or so in this room? Thanks

That was one of dozens of such rooms. Why not do a tiny bit of research before saying stupid shit like that? There are literally thousands of upon thousands of mediocre and incompetent teachers nationwide. Troublemakers are far fewer in number.
 
As I said, with out their Unions, teachers would be defenseless.

They are generally underpaid, under appreciated, and the punching bag and whipping boy for anyone with a cause looking for attention. And in today’s world, where they can be sued for saying the wrong word in a lesson, or told to teach that which they know isn’t true, it is amazing that any young person would even want to be a teacher

Blaming the Union is just a scapegoat for demagogues, done largely cause it is easy

Without the Unions, Public School teachers wouldn't exist!

Every school administration in the country are so short-staffed, they are wondering if they can even conduct classes this term!

Number one reason is the low pay, but number 2 reason is because they do not feel safe, as so many teachers have been shot in all the school shootings here of late. And there is just no hope in ever having any common sense gun laws any time soon!

Each day 12 children die from gun violence in America. Another 32 are shot and injured.

Since Columbine in 1999, more than 338,000 students in the U.S. have experienced gun violence at school.
 
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That was one of dozens of such rooms. Why not do a tiny bit of research before saying stupid shit like that? There are literally thousands of upon thousands of mediocre and incompetent teachers nationwide. Troublemakers are far fewer in number.

There are literally thousands upon thousands of mediocre and incompetent (fill in the blank) nationwide.

Electricians
Plumbers
Cops
Accountants
Lawyers
Doctors
Investment counselors

As a matter of fact, you supported, and still do, one of the most incompetent and worst, not just mediocre, presidents in history.

Poor school performance almost always goes back to the parents, but teachers are such an easy scapegoat for you.
 
The disgraceful state of our school system in entirely the fault of the Stalin-o-crats, and their agents the teachers, where getting money for the union and DNC have long been the main goals.

And now, as our students flounder with STEM as well as simple reading, slociaql sexual and racial indoctrination are what is being foisted on ouir children, against the wishes of their parents.



As student scores plummet, teachers unions play politics and make them worse

Opinion by Washington Examiner




After another summer of radical activity from the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers, Congress should revoke the unique federal charter of the former, and federal agencies should ensure both groups comply fully with labor laws.

Both unions long ago abandoned their proper missions, namely ensuring reasonable working conditions for school staff. Both now are avatars of the extreme Left, focused less on educational attainment than on partisan political activism and radical social crusades.

Witness the major summer conferences of each organization this year. As highlighted in a new report by the Defense of Freedom Institute, the teachers unions keep pushing contentious racial and gender agendas, try to conceal what they are really doing, seek to block parental involvement in education, and push disciplinary laxity at the cost of classroom safety. The Aug. 16 report, called “Summer of Woke, the Sequel,” details a litany of the unions’ conference obsessions that militate against the interests and views of large majorities of parents. The NEA openly advocates violations of Titles VI and VII of the Civil Rights Act by advocating hiring preferences based on race and gender while literally opposing “employment practices that treat people equally regardless of ethnicity or gender.”

This all comes at the expense of a focus on improving teaching, which should be the top priority after recent calamitous drops in national education scores. Consider a resolution on transgender issues that the AFT passed; it advocates “inclusive policies relating to … bathrooms and locker rooms.” It also commits the union and its teachers to work with activist groups that, among other things, demand that staff should avoid telling parents when calling students by “pronouns” that do not fit their biological sex.

The NEA this year released a “Pronoun Guide” listing the “most common pronouns the non-words “ze,” “zim,” “zir” “zirs,” and “zerself” in lieu of he, him, her, hers, and herself. This isn’t a joke. The unions want to fill children's heads with nonsense instead of teaching them English. One of the NEA's summer sessions, according to the think tank’s report, “argues that ‘cisnormativity,’ the assumption that people’s gender identity matches their biological sex, ‘can be limiting for [differently gendered people] … and cisgender folks alike.” Schoolchildren should be learning facts, the truth, what is what, at school. They should not be told a pack of ideological lies.













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You see why there is a teacher shortage teachers do not want to teach Democrat political agendas
 
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