Most Gazans didn't support Hamas attacking

ThatOwlWoman said:
It's the same sort of pack "thinking" that led to the internment of American citizens with Japanese ancestry in WWII, isn't it?
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It's something we do all of the time as humans. I mean, after 9/11, every Muslim was guilty to some Americans.

In this case, demonizing the entire population in Gaza just makes this whole thing neater and easier for everyone. Of course, Israel has to respond, and Hamas has to pay for what they did. But it seems like a LOT of innocent civilians are going to be caught in the crossfire there.
 
christiefan915 said:
Yes, there is. Counting and statistics.

  • During Joe Biden’s presidency, U.S. immigration authorities have encountered migrants about 7.2 million times at and between ports of entry. But that figure doesn’t show how many migrants entered and remained in the country. U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s encounter data tracks events, not people, and the same person can be recorded multiple times for repeated attempts to cross the border.​

  • The encounter data also does not reflect expulsions. From February 2021 to May 2023, there were about 2.5 million expulsions under Title 42, a COVID-19 pandemic-era policy that allowed officials to quickly expel migrants. Besides the Title 42 removals, about 591,000 removals have been initiated by border authorities during Biden’s tenure.
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Relax folks it is just one illegal immigrant caught crossing....7.2 million times :laugh:
 
Lionfish said:
"Hamas, a Palestinian Islamist militant group centered in Gaza, was founded in 1988 to fight against the Israeli occupation. Hamas and other militant groups launched repeated attacks on Israeli targets in Gaza, leading to Israel’s unilateral withdrawal from Gaza in 2005. In 2006, Palestinian legislative elections were held. Hamas beat its secular rival, Fatah, which had been widely accused of corruption. Elections haven’t been held in Gaza since 2006, but polling from March 2023 found that 45% of Gazans would back Hamas should there be a vote, ahead of Fatah at 32%."
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And, in that is the reason you don't want elections that have multiple parties running in them. When you do, you have the possibility that the largest minority vote is a bloc that backs extremists. More than a few dictators have been elected that way only to take power and end free elections to keep it now that they're in.
 
domer76 said:
The last election was in 2006.

I don’t need a history lesson on the formation of Israel.

Take a look at the conditions in which the Gazans are forced to live. At the hands of Israel. Then ask yourself why would the Gazans want to revolt against that kind of oppression.
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How are Gazans forced to live in the conditions they're in because of Israel? Egypt won't open their border any more than Israel does. Does Egypt force Gazans to live like they do too?

Gaza is the way it is because of Gazans. It's that simple. If Gaza wasn't run by terrorists, chock-a-block with terrorists, and constantly executing terrorism on their neighbors, they wouldn't find themselves living in what amounts to a self-imposed prison camp.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
So it's okay to make up your own statistics as long as no one can prove you're wrong? Straight from the #TRE45ON playbook! Or is that THE SCRIPT? :rofl2:
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Maybe you should consult our border agents. They have a better idea how many illegals are crossing our borders. Trump has nothing to do with it and I have no clue what you are referencing this "SCRIPT" shit.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
FUCK YOU IDIOT!

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Nope. Ain't no way you gonna fuck me! My ass is cherry and no lizard (or any man) is gonna change that.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
How are Gazans forced to live in the conditions they're in because of Israel? Egypt won't open their border any more than Israel does. Does Egypt force Gazans to live like they do too?

Gaza is the way it is because of Gazans. It's that simple. If Gaza wasn't run by terrorists, chock-a-block with terrorists, and constantly executing terrorism on their neighbors, they wouldn't find themselves living in what amounts to a self-imposed prison camp.
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It’s a fenced fucking prison yard with EVERY exit point blocked, you fucking moron. There’s ONE exit to Egypt and SEVERAL to Israel. Israel controls everything. The air, sea and land blockade. Electricity. Water. Half the population wasn’t even born yet when there was the last election.

Israel is not the only fucking victim here.
 
domer76 said:
Every society has their built in propaganda.

Now, the Gazans have lived in an outdoor prison for many years. A ghetto controlled completely by Israel. No way out except through closed borders. Can’t even get proper medical treatment. So, try to look at yourself in similar conditions. Nothing but love for the oppressor, huh?
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And, if Gazans weren't constantly firing rockets into Israel, and perpetrating terrorist acts on Israel (and Egypt), maybe Israel and Egypt wouldn't have closed borders with Gaza...
 
domer76 said:
It’s a fenced fucking prison yard with EVERY exit point blocked, you fucking moron. There’s ONE exit to Egypt and SEVERAL to Israel. Israel controls everything. The air, sea and land blockade. Electricity. Water. Half the population wasn’t even born yet when there was the last election.

Israel is not the only fucking victim here.
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And it was the Gazans that made that happen, not Israel. The fences and blockade are the result of numerous, repeated, terrorist attacks from Gaza by Palestinians. As for Israel controlling the utilities, same thing. The Gazans aren't interested in the least in making Gaza a better place. They're interested in killing Jews.

If tomorrow, Gaza had no more terrorism going on, no more rocket fire going into Israel, and that was to be the norm going forward, the borders, both Israel's and Egypt's would become open. But that's not the case now, is it?
 
JesusAI said:
its more for cheap labor.

libertarian bros also support open border generally.

they're being very quiet in the midst of the maga phenomenon.
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I say it's for votes more than cheap labor. It's easier to allow them in for votes than it is to find competent employees. Take digging ditches for instance, can they operate the excavator? Safely drive a skid loader or dump truck? Hell, many illegals can't even speak English. How can you teach someone something when they can't even understand what you're saying?
 
domer76 said:
It’s a fenced fucking prison yard with EVERY exit point blocked, you fucking moron. There’s ONE exit to Egypt and SEVERAL to Israel. Israel controls everything. The air, sea and land blockade. Electricity. Water. Half the population wasn’t even born yet when there was the last election.

Israel is not the only fucking victim here.
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They are living in a prison of their own making. They are living on a beautiful ocean front property. They have used pipes meant for sewers to make rockets to attack Israel. They have used concrete to make tunnels to smuggle war materials instead of using it to build hospitals. Israel does not attack them unless they first attack Israel. A lot of Palestinians live in peace in Israel and even serve in the Knesset . If the Gaza Palestinians were good neighbors the Israelis would be good neighbors also.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
And it was the Gazans that made that happen, not Israel. The fences and blockade are the result of numerous, repeated, terrorist attacks from Gaza by Palestinians. As for Israel controlling the utilities, same thing. The Gazans aren't interested in the least in making Gaza a better place. They're interested in killing Jews.

If tomorrow, Gaza had no more terrorism going on, no more rocket fire going into Israel, and that was to be the norm going forward, the borders, both Israel's and Egypt's would become open. But that's not the case now, is it?
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Palestinians are like any other people. They want peace, and the ability to support their families. Gaza is honeycombed with tunnels. How do you think Hamas got rockets and fuel? They are black market highways too.
 
JesusAI said:
there's no lack of laws.

it's just globalists looking the other way for cheap labor and drug profits.
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Can you tell me anyone that is not a globalist?

And I will be glad to argue with you about that!

Now, tell me a country that is totally dependent on themselves, with a totally indigenous population, with closed borders, and does not need the help and cooperation of any other country for their survival and well being!

Sir, I will argue that with you all day- if you have the time!

So get you a new buzzword Sir!

Your continual use of the word globalist does not even apply in today's world!
 
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