Most Gazans didn't support Hamas attacking

Starting a war has consequences. War is different than the repeated false accusation that Gaza is a prison camp where no one can leave.

Israel is telling 1.1 million people to evacuate. The UN says that’s impossible.

A death sentence without a trial for millions.
 
The Border is secure!!! Mayorkis

Still waiting for you to tell us who said “the most secure border in history”.

Here’s my bet. You can’t, because nobody who knows shit from Shinola would ever make that claim.

So, looks like you post another lie. Don’t you grow weary of that? Or, are you like Trump and it’s pathological?
 
Better read p.14 of their Supreme Court decision, you willfully ignorant prick.

Then, you can come back on your knees begging forgiveness for being so fucking lazy and not doing your homework.

Most secure election in history.


No signature match,

Most disgracefully corrupt election in America history.
 
Still waiting for you to tell us who said “the most secure border in history”.

Here’s my bet. You can’t, because nobody who knows shit from Shinola would ever make that claim.

So, looks like you post another lie. Don’t you grow weary of that? Or, are you like Trump and it’s pathological?

Saying the border is secure is as stupid as claiming the 2020 election was secure.

An absurd fucking lie exposed by all available evidence.
 
One more time, fucking idiot. The last election was 17 years ago. Half their population wasn’t even born yet. You DO know what half is, don’t you?

So? It's apparent nothing has changed in that respect. Hamas enjoys widespread support in Gaza.

How do you make a ghetto a better place when you’re fenced in and your prison guard controls everything around you?

By stopping acting like violent prisoners who constantly attack the guards rather than try and better their situation. But remember this: The violence from the Palestinian side is the reason they're fenced in and it's like a prison. That violence isn't in response to Israel and Egypt putting up fences and controlling entry and exit.
 
Palestinians are like any other people. They want peace, and the ability to support their families. Gaza is honeycombed with tunnels. How do you think Hamas got rockets and fuel? They are black market highways too.

No, they're not. A good chunk of Palestinians want war and perpetual violence. They fight among themselves almost as much as they fight Israel.
 
You can blame Hamas all you want. Condemning entire generations of people to a slow, or sometimes sudden death, is another.
If you want help you should look at the end of your own arm. The Palestinians aren't helping themselves. Israel was split into two halves one where most of the Arabs lived and one where most of the Jews lived. The Jews had bought their land from arabs in the area. The Palestinians refused the deal and started a war for all of Israel. They lost. The Palestinians could have had half of Israel instead of the Gaza strip and the West bank.
 
Didn't about 20K-30K Gazans work in Israel every day? Hamas seems to have no problem moving around. The Crips, Bloods and Aryan assholes in prisons don't have that much freedom. Ergo, I disagree with calling Gaza a prison camp.

IMO, it's not that they can't leave but that they have no place to go. Not even the Arab countries want them. Same for Iran. If they really gave a shit about the Palestinians, it wouldn't be that difficult for all the Muslim countries to band together and accept refugees. Instead, they refuse the Palestinians refuge.

Yep, but the ones that do that are heavily vetted before they are allowed to get a pass to enter Israel. Egypt is the same way. The crossings are usually open and they only close when the Palestinian terrorist groups start doing things like firing rockets or such. Sea traffic is subject to a search by Israel or Egypt and if no weapons and such are found, allowed to unload into Gaza.
 
BREAKING NEWS: Most Japanese didn't support attacking America at Pearl Harbor - Roosevelt calls cease fire and apologizes to Japan.
 
Maybe, maybe, maybe…

Which came first, Jethro? The chicken or the egg?

“Maybe” if Israel wasn’t such an oppressive apartheid state there would be no reason for revolt.

Palestine and the Palestinians were violent terrorists on a wide scale long, long, before Israel existed.
 
Yep, but the ones that do that are heavily vetted before they are allowed to get a pass to enter Israel. Egypt is the same way. The crossings are usually open and they only close when the Palestinian terrorist groups start doing things like firing rockets or such. Sea traffic is subject to a search by Israel or Egypt and if no weapons and such are found, allowed to unload into Gaza.
I see nothing where they can't leave by sea to anywhere except countries that don't want them.
 
Hate and war are very simple. It's why the simple-minded like it so much.

Only the one I quoted. Yours is behind a paywall, but I understand how Iran has been sponsoring terrorism in Lebanon, Gaza and elsewhere for decades. A great book about Iran and their mindset is Robert Baer's "The Devil We Know". What fascinates me most about Iran is that their citizenry is moderate and pro-Western but their leadership are religious fanatics.

War can be simple for the hard feelings that accompany it but the hard feelings often have unsimple things behind them. Anyway I admire Israel. My criticisms were for our members calling for the annihilation of the civil population of Gaza as payback. The Times piece suggests the raid into the villages was long in the planning by "leaders from Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas". Makes sense to me it wasn't just an impulsive act of rage. Question is, what was it then? Guessing doesn't help.
 
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